why sugar coat any of this

it takes brains and nuts

when you require results of the non mediocre variety

so ive heard

OMG gypsy! You are a riot!

Just ask her out.. Ask her out for coffee or something casual. It's normal to be nervous when approaching women.. They are very predictable in an unpredictable way. What is the worst that could happen? So she says no.. Well, if she says no then you have your answer and would probably not want to go out with her anyway. If you sit back (or in this case run away lol) then you will never know. And to me that's worse than rejection.

I definitely would do just that

Well I didn't go today, but probably will again sometime soon. I think to some extent I'm a bit discouraged honestly, like I sort of want to think that she's just not going to be there again if I'm ever there. Sounds silly, but that's what I'm thinking.

Double post, my apologies.

Say hi?

I swear the more I think, the less I want to act. I think I'm afraid I'll go there again for nothing, that she won't be there like she wasn't the last time.

But of course if I don't try again, I may never know what was there.......

I overcome shyness with alcohol.

That would work....if I drank lol.

I'm not going to go there today, first off it's too late, the time I saw her before has long passed. Second, not feeling the most confident right now anyway, not exactly the cleanest at the moment, and want to make a good impression when I do approach her (if I do). Lastly I'm sort of tired anyway.

Plan to go bright and early tomorrow though, have to be up anyhow.

I used to be shy when I was younger but now I have this whole attitude where I am very confident and you act like you don't care what anyone else thinks.

Well I decided to sort of relax a bit about everything, and not worry about this relationship so much. If I meet someone I do, if not then I don't. Playing the what if game and thinking about what I could or should have done before isn't gonna do me any good. You can't change the past. Just gonna live my life, and whatever happens happens.

Having said all of that, I went to the track this morning with my friend as I did yesterday, just to walk basically. Gonna try and go daily actually, anyway I did happen to see the girl from last week. We exchanged some plesantries, names and such, just brief little chats as she'd pass by us on the track. She comes there 3 or 4 times a week as it turns out. So I'm sure I'll see her there again as I walk there more myself. Eventually I may ask her if she wants to meet for coffee or whatever, but not yet, gonna give it time.

So that's it for now, funny thing I stop focusing on it so much and then I do see her. Go figure huh?

Good for you, make sure this applies to the making of all friends. You sounded like you wanted to stalk her a couple of posts ago, but I am glad you have found your confidence and are maintaining positive. kudos

Yeah I was taking it a bit far before. Will admit to some nervousness though today when I saw her again, once I figured out it was her. Like I wondered, okay I know for sure it's her now (having asked her), so now what? But I figured it out soon enough as to the best way to handle it.

That's truly great news! good luck 2 ya

Thanks, I love what you got on your profile BTW. That's something I struggle with a lot, accepting and embracing things I really shouldn't, and battling my own self worth. So all that you said there really hits home for me.

how to overcome shyness....

i just do my best to make a total fool of myself..
and then see if at least he doesnt smile...

Well I did ask the girl if she'd want to get a coffee or something sometime, and turns out she's married! Boy was I embarassed!

Besides, sanity is way overated.

What's wrong with a friendly cup of Joe? You did just ask to have coffee, right?

Shy people are shy. (there's a nugget of wisdom). And if you can't overcome that (I struggle greatly with it) then you may have to simply meet women in group type settings... like classes, or volunteering, or the like. Places where you don't have to feel awkward about having a conversation. Some people can just naturally talk to anyone. But if it's not natural to you, she will likely see the uncomfortableness.

On the other hand, the best way to get over being shy is to simply force yourself in to those situations even though you may get negative results. Once you realize that the worst that happens is she gives you the cold shoulder (well I suppose she could mace you, but hopefully you didn't try the 'jump out of the bushes thing), then you will get more comfortable and gain the confidence that actually makes you more attractive.

Good luck to you. It's a tough thing to deal with. But regardless, there are women that will see through the shyness and measure who you are underneath. I've met plenty.