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Topic: Sacrifices in the Dating World
Jim519 Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 9203	Tue 07/08/08 01:47 AM
In the Dating Scene, what is the biggest sacrifice you have given up to please someone? Whether it be for or against your prospective date.... My sacrifice was.....I cancelled a date last minute with a gorgeous woman who was the owned a very succesful marketing agency. She had evened pursued me, I cancelled to take my daughter for ice cream. When I tried to reschedule I got the voicemail and no call back..... Oh well I say ..Totally her loss, I dont regret one bit of it. The company of my daughter and the Ice Cream were well worth it!

BonnyMiss Joined Thu 05/10/07 Posts: 15342	Tue 07/08/08 01:53 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you.

Jim519 Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 9203	Tue 07/08/08 02:00 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together

boneyjoe Joined Sun 12/09/07 Posts: 6196	Tue 07/08/08 02:00 AM
goodmorning pretty lady,,,,,,,,,,,,you just said a mouth full,,,,,,,,i have put th last 20 years on hold to raise some one elese kids,,,not that i mind,,,,,,,,,but now th youngest is 17 an he don't need dad no more except,,,,,,,,dad may i have some money,,,,,,,,jim i have noticed that you always put your daughter frist,,,,i understand that,,,,,,,,but i know your a great dad,,,,,,,but jim has needs also,,,,,,make some time for jim,,,daughtr will always luv you

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Tue 07/08/08 02:00 AM
I havent sacrificed anything except time

Fade2Black Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 50752	Tue 07/08/08 02:01 AM
Biggest sacrifice? Try not dating at ALL for 7 years to help my kids adjust to the single parent lifestyle in our home. To spend time in their schools and do stuff with them. Make them the priority. It was well worth it. Altho I kinda spoiled them with that decision, I will never ever regret it. I may have let 7 good years of 'youth' go down the drain in lieu of spending ALL my time with them, but heck, they didn't ask for the divorce and it can be really hard on kids. Will never regret the decision. I've dated plenty since. Had more dates than most singles who didn't put their life on hold for years.

sweetandstrong Joined Sat 02/24/07 Posts: 1438	Tue 07/08/08 02:03 AM
When my children were little, I never looked at it as putting my life on hold. I brought them into this world and spending time with them when they were young was far more important than a date. They are both well into thier teens now, pretty well adjusted and happy. So, it was well worth it.

robert1652 Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 8447	Tue 07/08/08 02:08 AM Edited by robert1652 on Tue 07/08/08 02:10 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. We do not own the children we are their custodian we help them to find their path and once they do they will go on their own. Meanwhile you enjoy the innocence that is worth 1000000000 dates I am not looking for their gratitude , They may even stick me in an old peoples home those are non issues. We are only the custodians of the future generation

BonnyMiss Joined Thu 05/10/07 Posts: 15342	Tue 07/08/08 02:11 AM Edited by BonnyMiss on Tue 07/08/08 02:16 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. BTW, from a very tender age I have always told them that they do not have to love me, because I am their mother and that if they did it was their choice.

Jim519 Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 9203	Tue 07/08/08 02:13 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. You did something right then

robert1652 Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 8447	Tue 07/08/08 02:15 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum

BonnyMiss Joined Thu 05/10/07 Posts: 15342	Tue 07/08/08 02:19 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum How so? Explain please

robert1652 Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 8447	Tue 07/08/08 02:22 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum How so? Explain please On your first statement you declared that you sacrifice all the time and you are left alone (Not you in particular but one) and your own experience having spent all your time rewarded you not being on your own when moving and hence two contradictory statements

BonnyMiss Joined Thu 05/10/07 Posts: 15342	Tue 07/08/08 02:29 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum How so? Explain please On your first statement you declared that you sacrifice all the time and you are left alone (Not you in particular but one) and your own experience having spent all your time rewarded you not being on your own when moving and hence two contradictory statements Sir, be not hasty in your "appraisal" of my statement, without telling you my entire life story, I have been a single parent for the past 19 years, I refrained from dating ( to protect my children, as I was not sure whom I would be letting into their lives) The example I quoted has been the experiences of friends, and parents of children I have taught. I am from the old school and as such raised my children to be fine upstanding citizens of the future ( just as my parents did for me) I was determined that my two would not be or go without ( not so much in material values) but to bestow upon the values of life's freely given lessons so that they may benefit from a good upbringing.I was and still am there for them should they need me.

baldy6211 Joined Fri 07/04/08 Posts: 5	Tue 07/08/08 02:39 AM
Hear hear god on you. My daughter comes first over my wants,and i don't regret any of it. I still find time to date lovely women and my personal feeling is, if the woman I date cant accept that my daughter comes first or at least joint first then that woman is not the right one for my daughter and me. I 100% agree with you stand

robert1652 Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 8447	Tue 07/08/08 02:39 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum How so? Explain please On your first statement you declared that you sacrifice all the time and you are left alone (Not you in particular but one) and your own experience having spent all your time rewarded you not being on your own when moving and hence two contradictory statements Sir, be not hasty in your "appraisal" of my statement, without telling you my entire life story, I have been a single parent for the past 19 years, I refrained from dating ( to protect my children, as I was not sure whom I would be letting into their lives) The example I quoted has been the experiences of friends, and parents of children I have taught. I am from the old school and as such raised my children to be fine upstanding citizens of the future ( just as my parents did for me) I was determined that my two would not be or go without ( not so much in material values) but to bestow upon the values of life's freely given lessons so that they may benefit from a good upbringing.I was and still am there for them should they need me. Madam I am not hasty You put forward two statement (friend or not irrelevant) which are in direct contradiction to your own experience . You could have stated in your first statement that your experience was contrary to the findings of your friends you didn't I made an observation based on those statement without being slightly interested in your life story. I am not going to engage and as I said as it appears and presented in the forum there appears a contradiction based upon the statements regardless of past or future history and without any reference to years of sacrifice and so on I hope that the point is clear and if not it is too bad sorry that you are not happy

BonnyMiss Joined Thu 05/10/07 Posts: 15342	Tue 07/08/08 02:47 AM Edited by BonnyMiss on Tue 07/08/08 02:49 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum How so? Explain please On your first statement you declared that you sacrifice all the time and you are left alone (Not you in particular but one) and your own experience having spent all your time rewarded you not being on your own when moving and hence two contradictory statements Sir, be not hasty in your "appraisal" of my statement, without telling you my entire life story, I have been a single parent for the past 19 years, I refrained from dating ( to protect my children, as I was not sure whom I would be letting into their lives) The example I quoted has been the experiences of friends, and parents of children I have taught. I am from the old school and as such raised my children to be fine upstanding citizens of the future ( just as my parents did for me) I was determined that my two would not be or go without ( not so much in material values) but to bestow upon the values of life's freely given lessons so that they may benefit from a good upbringing.I was and still am there for them should they need me. Madam I am not hasty You put forward two statement (friend or not irrelevant) which are in direct contradiction to your own experience . You could have stated in your first statement that your experience was contrary to the findings of your friends you didn't I made an observation based on those statement without being slightly interested in your life story. I am not going to engage and as I said as it appears and presented in the forum there appears a contradiction based upon the statements regardless of past or future history and without any reference to years of sacrifice and so on I hope that the point is clear and if not it is too bad sorry that you are not happy Sir, I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill I thought I answered the point put across by the original poster in light of what he had stated and did not expect to have my statement analysed ( yes, I spelt analysed with an "S") I did not think the focus was on me personally, hence I did not make any references to my own "case" as it were. But, if you would like to evaluate my statement..............Be my guest. Hope that you are happy too. All done in the best possible taste ( of course)

robert1652 Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 8447	Tue 07/08/08 02:54 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum How so? Explain please On your first statement you declared that you sacrifice all the time and you are left alone (Not you in particular but one) and your own experience having spent all your time rewarded you not being on your own when moving and hence two contradictory statements Sir, be not hasty in your "appraisal" of my statement, without telling you my entire life story, I have been a single parent for the past 19 years, I refrained from dating ( to protect my children, as I was not sure whom I would be letting into their lives) The example I quoted has been the experiences of friends, and parents of children I have taught. I am from the old school and as such raised my children to be fine upstanding citizens of the future ( just as my parents did for me) I was determined that my two would not be or go without ( not so much in material values) but to bestow upon the values of life's freely given lessons so that they may benefit from a good upbringing.I was and still am there for them should they need me. Madam I am not hasty You put forward two statement (friend or not irrelevant) which are in direct contradiction to your own experience . You could have stated in your first statement that your experience was contrary to the findings of your friends you didn't I made an observation based on those statement without being slightly interested in your life story. I am not going to engage and as I said as it appears and presented in the forum there appears a contradiction based upon the statements regardless of past or future history and without any reference to years of sacrifice and so on I hope that the point is clear and if not it is too bad sorry that you are not happy Sir, I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill I thought I answered the point put across by the original poster in light of what he had stated and did not expect to have my statement analysed ( yes, I spelt analysed with an "S") I did not think the focus was on me personally, hence I did not make any references to my own "case" as it were. But, if you would like to evaluate my statement..............Be my guest. Hope that you are happy too. All done in the best possible taste ( of course) What you were meaning to say I suspect in your first statement was that people may sacrifice their time fruitlessly not knowing how to raise their kids and in that case there would have been no confusion on the factual terms I hope that at least is obvious and at no times debates with me degenerate to bad taste . You can be assured of that.

BonnyMiss Joined Thu 05/10/07 Posts: 15342	Tue 07/08/08 03:01 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum How so? Explain please On your first statement you declared that you sacrifice all the time and you are left alone (Not you in particular but one) and your own experience having spent all your time rewarded you not being on your own when moving and hence two contradictory statements Sir, be not hasty in your "appraisal" of my statement, without telling you my entire life story, I have been a single parent for the past 19 years, I refrained from dating ( to protect my children, as I was not sure whom I would be letting into their lives) The example I quoted has been the experiences of friends, and parents of children I have taught. I am from the old school and as such raised my children to be fine upstanding citizens of the future ( just as my parents did for me) I was determined that my two would not be or go without ( not so much in material values) but to bestow upon the values of life's freely given lessons so that they may benefit from a good upbringing.I was and still am there for them should they need me. Madam I am not hasty You put forward two statement (friend or not irrelevant) which are in direct contradiction to your own experience . You could have stated in your first statement that your experience was contrary to the findings of your friends you didn't I made an observation based on those statement without being slightly interested in your life story. I am not going to engage and as I said as it appears and presented in the forum there appears a contradiction based upon the statements regardless of past or future history and without any reference to years of sacrifice and so on I hope that the point is clear and if not it is too bad sorry that you are not happy Sir, I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill I thought I answered the point put across by the original poster in light of what he had stated and did not expect to have my statement analysed ( yes, I spelt analysed with an "S") I did not think the focus was on me personally, hence I did not make any references to my own "case" as it were. But, if you would like to evaluate my statement..............Be my guest. Hope that you are happy too. All done in the best possible taste ( of course) What you were meaning to say I suspect in your first statement was that people may sacrifice their time fruitlessly not knowing how to raise their kids and in that case there would have been no confusion on the factual terms I hope that at least is obvious and at no times debates with me degenerate to bad taste . You can be assured of that. Robert, it is very nice to know that your debates does not degenerate to bad taste, if it did then you would not have me as an opponent. I do not harbour grudges, bear malice to another human being and I live for a peaceful life. I have seen and met people from all walks of life and do strive to get along with, you never know when you may have to call on a total stranger for help.Peace.................I love it !

robert1652 Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 8447	Tue 07/08/08 03:07 AM
Time and again I have heard of parents making sacrifices for their children...............The child then gets to teen years and guess what? The parent or parents who has put their life on hold for that child/children is left alone once the child/children has found a group of friends to hang around with.......................I have friends in this position, I get the phone calls from them. Not saying this is the case with you. I am certain that day will come when her friends take priority over me. The way I see it is that "My time will come" That I am certain of as well. I have loved and also know the feeling of being loved. Dating at this time and point is just that, when the time is right, it will happen. Until then my daughter gets my unconditional love and full attention. She needs me as a part of her upbringing, she will always know that I am there for her, regardless of my situation. She didnt ask or want her parents to be apart, so I will not allow for her to be a victim of a divorce because of what her mother wanted, she had no control over that. So I will be there for her just as if we were all still living together Very admirable, , I dare say it is the upbringing you bestow on a child that reaps the rewards in their later life.I made that sacrifice, my children ( God bless them ) are very close to me and not for one minute will either of them forsake me, this past few weeks has proved that, my son ( whom I still see as a 4yr old) took control of my moving, arranged for my excess baggage to go into storage,found me temporary accommodation and has phoned and texted me all hours of the day and night.My daughter has also been very attentive. We go to the cinema together, have lunch and dinner dates, go for walks and "hang out" together ( my daughter calls it cotching)I know this may sound very biased, but if they were not my children, I would (as a parent) want two similar children as my own. They are beautiful, inside and out. Your last statement is in direct contradiction to your first statement Your experience has shown to you different to the very first statement that you made I hope you are just playing the advocate for the purposes of the forum How so? Explain please On your first statement you declared that you sacrifice all the time and you are left alone (Not you in particular but one) and your own experience having spent all your time rewarded you not being on your own when moving and hence two contradictory statements Sir, be not hasty in your "appraisal" of my statement, without telling you my entire life story, I have been a single parent for the past 19 years, I refrained from dating ( to protect my children, as I was not sure whom I would be letting into their lives) The example I quoted has been the experiences of friends, and parents of children I have taught. I am from the old school and as such raised my children to be fine upstanding citizens of the future ( just as my parents did for me) I was determined that my two would not be or go without ( not so much in material values) but to bestow upon the values of life's freely given lessons so that they may benefit from a good upbringing.I was and still am there for them should they need me. Madam I am not hasty You put forward two statement (friend or not irrelevant) which are in direct contradiction to your own experience . You could have stated in your first statement that your experience was contrary to the findings of your friends you didn't I made an observation based on those statement without being slightly interested in your life story. I am not going to engage and as I said as it appears and presented in the forum there appears a contradiction based upon the statements regardless of past or future history and without any reference to years of sacrifice and so on I hope that the point is clear and if not it is too bad sorry that you are not happy Sir, I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill I thought I answered the point put across by the original poster in light of what he had stated and did not expect to have my statement analysed ( yes, I spelt analysed with an "S") I did not think the focus was on me personally, hence I did not make any references to my own "case" as it were. But, if you would like to evaluate my statement..............Be my guest. Hope that you are happy too. All done in the best possible taste ( of course) What you were meaning to say I suspect in your first statement was that people may sacrifice their time fruitlessly not knowing how to raise their kids and in that case there would have been no confusion on the factual terms I hope that at least is obvious and at no times debates with me degenerate to bad taste . You can be assured of that. Robert, it is very nice to know that your debates does not degenerate to bad taste, if it did then you would not have me as an opponent. I do not harbour grudges, bear malice to another human being and I live for a peaceful life. I have seen and met people from all walks of life and do strive to get along with, you never know when you may have to call on a total stranger for help.Peace.................I love it ! There is where the problems lie 1 Never thought of you as an opponent 2 Made a totally valid observation 3 Never spoke of malice, grudge, 4 Was never trying to win an argument I was totally focused on the issue without side tracking and dealt with facts as presented in the forum That my friend at the end of the day what the debate should be about without sidetracks . Unfortunately that was not achieved regrettable.