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Topic: martydom
cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Tue 07/01/08 04:04 PM
why is being a martyr in any religion a good thing and do you get to heaven faster if you die for your beliefs?Many of the Catholic saints are martyrs so I was just wondering.

Nova09 Joined Wed 10/03/07 Posts: 4	Tue 07/01/08 04:16 PM
Being Catholic, your question is easy, Martyrs are individuals that MUST die(supposedly god put them here for that reason, that IS their entire purpose for being...to die for the faith), to keep the faith "moving" whether they are the paladins of the crusades, or a priest who gives his life to protect the rest of the clergy, they are dying to "promote god, and save his followers. And yes...kind of like dogs...ALL martyrs go to heaven.

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Tue 07/01/08 05:34 PM
thanx.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Tue 07/01/08 06:11 PM Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 07/01/08 06:14 PM
I pray to "GOD" everyday that I will be honored to die in his name

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Tue 07/01/08 06:17 PM
So I'm happy tonight Im not worried about anything Im not fearing any man Mine eyes have seen The Glory of The Coming of The Lord

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/02/08 06:39 AM
why is being a martyr in any religion a good thing and do you get to heaven faster if you die for your beliefs?Many of the Catholic saints are martyrs so I was just wondering. a martyr is someone with suicidal tendercies that are induced into a mind frame bent on self annilation either to achieve a set goal or a delusional belief that by ending their life by the hands of someone other than theirselves they would actually be giving their life a purpose instead of simply wasting it by committing suicide by their own hands

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Wed 07/02/08 06:44 AM
A martyr is a person who suffers and dies for "GOD". Anyone that is killed for their belief in Jesus Christ is a martyr. There is NO higher honor.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/02/08 06:48 AM
A martyr is a person who suffers and dies for "GOD". Anyone that is killed for their belief in Jesus Christ is a martyr. There is NO higher honor. does that also apply to suicide bombers that die for God

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Wed 07/02/08 06:51 AM
A martyr is a person who suffers and dies for "GOD". Anyone that is killed for their belief in Jesus Christ is a martyr. There is NO higher honor. does that also apply to suicide bombers that die for God Not according to the Bible. A martyr goes to his death as a lamb goes to a slaughter. Just a Jesus did.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/02/08 06:54 AM
A martyr is a person who suffers and dies for "GOD". Anyone that is killed for their belief in Jesus Christ is a martyr. There is NO higher honor. does that also apply to suicide bombers that die for God Not according to the Bible. A martyr goes to his death as a lamb goes to a slaughter. Just a Jesus did. a lamb doesn't know it's about to be slaughter ...did Jesus?

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Wed 07/02/08 07:05 AM
A martyr is a person who suffers and dies for "GOD". Anyone that is killed for their belief in Jesus Christ is a martyr. There is NO higher honor. does that also apply to suicide bombers that die for God Not according to the Bible. A martyr goes to his death as a lamb goes to a slaughter. Just a Jesus did. a lamb doesn't know it's about to be slaughter ...did Jesus? Yes he knew and considering the brutal fashion that most martyrs were killed I would say they knew it too.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/02/08 07:26 AM
A martyr is a person who suffers and dies for "GOD". Anyone that is killed for their belief in Jesus Christ is a martyr. There is NO higher honor. does that also apply to suicide bombers that die for God Not according to the Bible. A martyr goes to his death as a lamb goes to a slaughter. Just a Jesus did. a lamb doesn't know it's about to be slaughter ...did Jesus? Yes he knew and considering the brutal fashion that most martyrs were killed I would say they knew it too. and since Jesus knew.. that means that Jesus didn't go to his death like a lamb would to slaughter and therefore is not a Martyr ...just someone that was suicidal

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Wed 07/02/08 07:48 AM Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 07/02/08 07:49 AM
A martyr is a person who suffers and dies for "GOD". Anyone that is killed for their belief in Jesus Christ is a martyr. There is NO higher honor. does that also apply to suicide bombers that die for God Not according to the Bible. A martyr goes to his death as a lamb goes to a slaughter. Just a Jesus did. a lamb doesn't know it's about to be slaughter ...did Jesus? Yes he knew and considering the brutal fashion that most martyrs were killed I would say they knew it too. and since Jesus knew.. that means that Jesus didn't go to his death like a lamb would to slaughter and therefore is not a Martyr ...just someone that was suicidal Most people dont commit suicide by being brutally tortured and slowly killed by crucifixion. Most people dont commit suicide by feeding themselves to lions in an arena or being gored to death by a bull or being burned or dipped in boiling hot oil or crucified upside down. Thats not suicide thats martydom.

smiless Joined Wed 09/26/07 Posts: 13765	Wed 07/02/08 07:53 AM
Some call it brainwash Some call it honorable Some call it foolish Some call it neccessary Some will never agree

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/02/08 08:01 AM
Most people dont commit suicide by being brutally tortured and slowly killed by crucifixion. Most people dont commit suicide by feeding themselves to lions in an arena or being gored to death by a bull or being burned or dipped in boiling hot oil or crucified upside down. Thats not suicide thats martydom. which only proves the point.. suicidal people just kills theirselves Martyrs go out like a drama queen

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Wed 07/02/08 08:03 AM
Most people dont commit suicide by being brutally tortured and slowly killed by crucifixion. Most people dont commit suicide by feeding themselves to lions in an arena or being gored to death by a bull or being burned or dipped in boiling hot oil or crucified upside down. Thats not suicide thats martydom. which only proves the point.. suicidal people just kills theirselves Martyrs go out like a drama queen ok Funches, If you say so Beyond accepting Jesus into their lives Im not sure these people had much of a choice.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 07/02/08 08:21 AM
Most people dont commit suicide by being brutally tortured and slowly killed by crucifixion. Most people dont commit suicide by feeding themselves to lions in an arena or being gored to death by a bull or being burned or dipped in boiling hot oil or crucified upside down. Thats not suicide thats martydom. which only proves the point.. suicidal people just kills theirselves Martyrs go out like a drama queen ok Funches, If you say so Beyond accepting Jesus into their lives Im not sure these people had much of a choice. why didn't they have a choice?

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Wed 07/02/08 08:30 AM
Being Catholic, your question is easy, Martyrs are individuals that MUST die(supposedly god put them here for that reason, that IS their entire purpose for being...to die for the faith), to keep the faith "moving" whether they are the paladins of the crusades, or a priest who gives his life to protect the rest of the clergy, they are dying to "promote god, and save his followers. And yes...kind of like dogs...ALL martyrs go to heaven. Well, actually anyone who dies for their faith is a martyr. Just like that girl at Columbine. The shooter asked her if she believe in God and when she said yes he shot her. She would be considered a martyr.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Wed 07/02/08 08:32 AM Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 07/02/08 08:33 AM
Most people dont commit suicide by being brutally tortured and slowly killed by crucifixion. Most people dont commit suicide by feeding themselves to lions in an arena or being gored to death by a bull or being burned or dipped in boiling hot oil or crucified upside down. Thats not suicide thats martydom. which only proves the point.. suicidal people just kills theirselves Martyrs go out like a drama queen ok Funches, If you say so Beyond accepting Jesus into their lives Im not sure these people had much of a choice. why didn't they have a choice? They made the choice to include Jesus in their lives although they knew it would cost them their lives. And they stood firm and did not reject their beliefs even though they were facing unspeakable horrors. They had no choice considering that at the time of the orignal martyrs it was illegal to be a Christian.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Wed 07/02/08 08:38 AM
Most people dont commit suicide by being brutally tortured and slowly killed by crucifixion. Most people dont commit suicide by feeding themselves to lions in an arena or being gored to death by a bull or being burned or dipped in boiling hot oil or crucified upside down. Thats not suicide thats martydom. which only proves the point.. suicidal people just kills theirselves Martyrs go out like a drama queen Wow, no respect for the dead or people that died for what they believe in. You are a pretty horrible person. Gonna be hard for me to respect you after that one.