I have never been mean, nasty or called anyone a name.....If anything it's been done to me....Do I take offense to it.....nope....and only do I when my Lord & Savior is called a lie or myth, His Son the same....Or that the Bible was just "written by men" Then I get my dander a lil up.....I still never revert to name calling.....I just put out my rebuttal and why I believe why I do...what others do with the information is totally up to them.

seems as if these words could not be typed without FIRST some offense being taken......hum......jmo

Yea I guess I should start my own post something that has bugged me, as well as quite a few people for a long time. Stop lumping people into categories PERIOD....each person on these forums is an individual with their own perceptions ideas and beliefs.....

Well, if you take a close look at the threads, I think you'll find Christians being called "dellusional" far more than those who do not believe in Christ as "heathen".

I'm not quite sure why you feel that "nonbeliever" is derrogatory. If you have a better word for someone who does not believe that Jesus Christ is who the bible says he is, I'll be happy to use it. But I use the term "un-believer" merely as the opposite of "believer". I don't put forth any pretense that one is more superior than the other - just a way to reference who it is I'm talking about.

I call people who don't believe in aliens nonbelievers.

They just call me crazy.

JB

I am a total nonbeliever who happens to also think your not crazy.......

indeed.....i could not agree more.....what a great idea.....

what be the way to accomplish this i wonder, as if there be a problem, there MUST it seem be a solution......perhaps one would consider including also all the ideas of HOW to accomplish this........

well, my random thoughts would be........

hum........all humans indeed IT WOULD SEEM would have to be first seen as equal, or perfect, and that the process of becoming MORE PERFECT is in the "stages of development" then at ALL TIMES, and then yes, this could lead to the way truth you describe.......however, to SEE this, or "believe it", it seems FIRST each would have to be HEARD as equal, and to be heard as equal, then thought of as equal, and to be thought of as equal, then.......

hum.....seems herein lies the root of what cause lumping to first begin to occur.......the PERCEPTION of the mind that JUDGE others yes indeed, so then the only way not judging could occur it appears certainally then seeing all as equal, and none greater or lessor.........damn, but then thoughts would then have to FIRST be seen as all equal, as none bad or none good........then it seems plausible that all actions would indeed come to be seen as equal, then words, then thoughts, and devisiveness would then be cut off at the ROOT.......

hum.......but the DECEPTION of this it seems lie in the fact that this would have to be done from the outside in FIRST, in reverse order, or uncreating what was first created........others not seen as equal.

so then KNOWING all are perfect, hearing all as perfect, then one comes back to the perfect origin of themself, and NOW it can be seen how one themself is perfect or equal SECONDLY, not FIRST.........i LOVE your idea, and seems even why the great patriarch of the truth jesus our friend said to make others FIRST becomes apparent for more than the reason of being good or saving oneself, which i always thought would create divisiveness anyhow, lol.........

make all men afraid, make em fight, lol.......just knew it didn't seem to be ALL the truth what many say to do.......

hum......then, no longer would GOOD be based on actions or words or beliefs, yes, and NOT GOOD would be based on innocence, and not GUILT........

then if any innocent HEAR the truth or wisdom, they could now become MORE PERFECT, as the proof would NOW be what make another WANT good just by hearing.....i like your idea all the more........this indeed seems again what jesus seemed to say in looking not at the status of the world to deem the merit of anything.........i like this guy.......i think i shall follow him too, as well as all other great patriarchs that DO NOT make themself to be great, as certainally it seems this would then be the greatest SIGN of greater wisdom........yea, as which one that speak truth would EVER tell others commandments to follow, and say and implie by the simple act of speaking they are better, and HAVE ALREADY REACHED WISDOM..........

yes indeed, perhaps there is MUCH MORE TRUTH THAN I FIRST SEEN in what you see as the problem...........

if this higher or equal wisdom be seen as greater, than the only downfall i see is it will certainally make ALL at first to feel as less, or inadequate, damn.......as to hear al the words from others as equal pose a BIG PROBLEM..........such feelings of hurt or offense are often felt, oh so much.......but if this "feeling" were to be seen as what be the BIGGEST BLOCK to always hearing more, well, perhaps people would embrace it, and not run from it in FEAR.......awh, was not there mentioned in your text you believe in a mark in the forehead, or mind or something, something about a beast of fear, and the mark in the hand of one that make violence with the hands............damn girl, and i always thought that was a stamp somebody gave bad people one day that did not pay heed to truth that was hiden from them on purpose, lol......never did get that one........whoa, then 666 might also not be a BAD number, and then maybe this was just the length of time that humans would be on the planet and have to in fear........wow, again your bible does have a lot of truths, but then i see truth everywhere i look, so it can be quite confusing..........

wow, again your leader jesus speak great wisdom, when saying all truth will always be accompanied at FIRST as seperating the bone from the flesh.......OUCH, i have felt this one many, many ,many times.......sucks the big one.......but, if there were some sign, or indicator, wow, that each time this was felt, MEAN MORE IS BEING LEARNED.......damn, i like it all the more feralcat, and even now am ready to pronounce that all can say anything to me, as to learn is no much less scary for me...........wow, then even pleasent learning might soon become born, and then fun forever learning.......your religion sure lead to seeing more truths........

so let me get this straight.....to stop lumping could never seem to become possible if the "rightness" of oneself be held to the greatest, or one make oneself as a "god" or MOST valued, makes sense........many gods, but have none before your neighbor being loved as the greatest........seems to me no more can be SEEN until this FIRST FEELING of wrongness be recognized as the CURSE that keep humankind from the very love within that is only buried by a deception..........i will no longer react to this as a negative, but with JOY......i think you may be converting me into believeing more words from your jesus......

seems if perfection be a state of mind that is attainable even as spoken by jesus, than it must be attainable, or of course that would indeed make him a false prophet, and this cannot be, as all men are equal and speak truth, and now i see how to find it........

i clearly see that also nothing can be created even in the entire human physical realm unless it is first believed, then known how, then executed........

so to speak the truth tell what will make all men equal right? not sure about this logic yet.......

seems then the only act of mankind that CREATE MORE is first saying or admitting what one beleive and that this will always be the MOST uncomfortable thing to do........whew, again, this jesus you beleive in sure seems to say a lot of wisdom, as it seems i rememeber it was said that the ackknowledgment of the truth WOULD ALWAYS MAKE MEN RUN, NOT GIVE COMFORT AT FIRST.............you have made me SEE WHY.......

what else could achieve all to stop "lumping" all into categories, but a GOOD REASON to throw down the naming of any sect, creed, religion, or race, as better, or having better, or being better........seems again brother jesus said as such when saying all men are equal in gods sight.........wow, this be all my minds ignorant ideas of the process of HOW to stop the lumping........

wow, seems though that only a total SUM or NEW TOTAL UNDERSTANDING of the mind, body, and spirit or energy fields could accomplish this.....but wait, it all starts from where YOU SAID, I SEE........whoa, this will have to be one great big truth, but then indeed it was said the truth was always available within man......diggity dog, so it is even already amoung us, and hath enough wisdom to create peace without one shedding of one drop of blood by a sword of war.......i like your god feralcat, and see good reason to believe you now.......just needed to work it out a little........

seems as if the greatest wisdom must then be as a silent surgeon.......darn, the truth was called as a great surgeon, that come and is not even seen, as one was asleep for surgery when all the work was done........even as a thief in the night would steal all that was once valuable.......yea, a thief steal prized jewels if he is a good one, and so comfort of untruth is what the truth steals........seems your god is pretty wise, so would probably make for a real good thief.........i am lettin it go girl, and see good reason why, even as i write........

whoa, all that stuff i heard once makes much more sense now and all from one great voice of courage to speak out........u r the best feralcat, and this could be to me the proof that there is greater wisdom, and that it truly loves and never demands, but shows how all things can be seen clearly...........

so what do you think........

this surely seems to me to be the sign of greater intelligence and understanding and wisdom that you have helped me to see, and i will heed with you feralcat.........thanks for the great ideas, and for letting me share my own.......peace

I think your quite an amazing human being david. And I think if people would stop, read, and take each person's writing as his/hers and theirs alone....and learn from it...This world would be a far greater place. I am here with a purpose, and not one that is mine but truly of God. I don't begrudge any person to believe as they see fit....and just wish that it would work both ways.

I think the greatest message I have been receiving as of late......"Is by example" I so try to do this to the best of my ability, I love each person here as an individual human being, I try and counsel, as such, give advise as such, help financially if I am so led. And most important to bring people to the Lord. I don't think anyone deserves to be called names and I know it goes both way.

I think if more people would just share instead of always having to be right......And what does that mean exactly. If you have Christians that believe one way....and others that believe another ok so be it. Were not going to change their minds and vise versa.......But at least for me show me the same respect that I have always shown to others.......Do unto others as you would have done unto you......It's so simple but so not followed.

Thanks David for sharing always a piece of your heart and soul each time your write. It touches my heart more then you will ever know.