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Topic: If He is imaginary, so what?
scttrbrain's photo
Sat 06/28/08 01:33 PM


ur goonna end up livin in the streets or back with mommy n daddy! Try gettin a job that would help! A bicycle from the trash as transportation and ur set. Cause God is not there to pay ur bills. If there was a God? how would he pay ur bills?


Who are you talking too?? I have a job, mind you it is not giving me the hours I want, but hopefully it will pick up soon. I had a car and couldn't afford to fix it so I just sold it a few weeks ago. My sis is loaning me her gas hogg pickup to get to work with. That alone is killing me financially. It now takes at least a third of my check to drive to work.

My mom and I bought a house together three years ago. She is 72 and still has a job. She doesn't get too many hours a week either.
We still have our own bills and new ones on top of that. Just found out our electric company is raising our rates by 30 dollars a month starting next month, because of fuel prices!

Kat


Oh...and I have lived on the streets and in my car and garages. I did so til I could afford to get a place to live. Worked and saved money while living homeless.

Lord_Psycho's photo
Sat 06/28/08 01:40 PM
Well thats great! Well stop complainin about ur bills n start thinkin about some financial solutions! Thats y people have financial issues cause they keep on buyin useless stuff that is not needed like cigarettes among other useless stuff. No1 is gonna do anything 4 u cause they all have the same problems!

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 06/28/08 01:45 PM

Well thats great! Well stop complainin about ur bills n start thinkin about some financial solutions! Thats y people have financial issues cause they keep on buyin useless stuff that is not needed like cigarettes among other useless stuff. No1 is gonna do anything 4 u cause they all have the same problems!



Wow ... surprised

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 06/28/08 01:49 PM


ur goonna end up livin in the streets or back with mommy n daddy! Try gettin a job that would help! A bicycle from the trash as transportation and ur set. Cause God is not there to pay ur bills. If there was a God? how would he pay ur bills?


Who are you talking too?? I have a job, mind you it is not giving me the hours I want, but hopefully it will pick up soon. I had a car and couldn't afford to fix it so I just sold it a few weeks ago. My sis is loaning me her gas hogg pickup to get to work with. That alone is killing me financially. It now takes at least a third of my check to drive to work.

My mom and I bought a house together three years ago. She is 72 and still has a job. She doesn't get too many hours a week either.
We still have our own bills and new ones on top of that. Just found out our electric company is raising our rates by 30 dollars a month starting next month, because of fuel prices!

Kat


Kat,

You don't need to defend or explain yourself...this was just plain nonsense and quick judgment by one who does not know you.

flowerforyou

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 06/28/08 01:54 PM
ignorance is arrogant.
let them revolve within it.

Lord_Psycho's photo
Sat 06/28/08 01:56 PM
We hear discuss about religion not financial situation thats some other forum!

scttrbrain's photo
Sat 06/28/08 02:00 PM



ur goonna end up livin in the streets or back with mommy n daddy! Try gettin a job that would help! A bicycle from the trash as transportation and ur set. Cause God is not there to pay ur bills. If there was a God? how would he pay ur bills?


Who are you talking too?? I have a job, mind you it is not giving me the hours I want, but hopefully it will pick up soon. I had a car and couldn't afford to fix it so I just sold it a few weeks ago. My sis is loaning me her gas hogg pickup to get to work with. That alone is killing me financially. It now takes at least a third of my check to drive to work.

My mom and I bought a house together three years ago. She is 72 and still has a job. She doesn't get too many hours a week either.
We still have our own bills and new ones on top of that. Just found out our electric company is raising our rates by 30 dollars a month starting next month, because of fuel prices!

Kat


Kat,

You don't need to defend or explain yourself...this was just plain nonsense and quick judgment by one who does not know you.

flowerforyou


Not gonna reply to him. You are right...he does not know me. I wasn't complaing either. I was sspeaking to TLW.

Thank you hon.

Kat

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 06/28/08 02:03 PM




ur goonna end up livin in the streets or back with mommy n daddy! Try gettin a job that would help! A bicycle from the trash as transportation and ur set. Cause God is not there to pay ur bills. If there was a God? how would he pay ur bills?


Who are you talking too?? I have a job, mind you it is not giving me the hours I want, but hopefully it will pick up soon. I had a car and couldn't afford to fix it so I just sold it a few weeks ago. My sis is loaning me her gas hogg pickup to get to work with. That alone is killing me financially. It now takes at least a third of my check to drive to work.

My mom and I bought a house together three years ago. She is 72 and still has a job. She doesn't get too many hours a week either.
We still have our own bills and new ones on top of that. Just found out our electric company is raising our rates by 30 dollars a month starting next month, because of fuel prices!

Kat


Kat,

You don't need to defend or explain yourself...this was just plain nonsense and quick judgment by one who does not know you.

flowerforyou


Not gonna reply to him. You are right...he does not know me. I wasn't complaing either. I was sspeaking to TLW.

Thank you hon.

Kat


I did not read it as complaining either Kat... you are a strong and capable woman.

:heart:


no photo
Sat 06/28/08 03:18 PM

Here is my point of view. If a person has come to a point of enlightment such that they have seen that God is imaginary. The same fact should allow this person to become free of the idea of God to the point they should not even care about the rest of individuals who still believe in God.
When I see an individual (with all due respect) that makes 10 threads trying to prove why God is imaginary. The only two conclusions I can come up with are:

1) This person has not gotten the level of enlightment required to don't give a dime about God and those who believe in Him; or

2) This person has become a fundamentalist atheist whose only purpose in life is destroy the idea of God.

Personally, both instances are foolish because if this person has understood that God does not exist why even care. Let the crazy people be crazy, and be happy and grateful of your level of understanding that the rest of us does not have or this person is not in peace with his/her "enlightment" this the reason why this individual has focus his/her existance in the destruction of what he/she seems to reject.

Again if I believe that something does not exist why do I put so much energy in arguing that this thing does not exist?
It's enough to know of the non-existance of something and just live life to fullest.

However, to each one to his/her own delusion.

TLW.


well you left out the fact that those that believe in that imaginary creature can and use to cause them to kill those that call it an imaginary creature

buffry's photo
Sat 06/28/08 03:43 PM


Here is my point of view. If a person has come to a point of enlightment such that they have seen that God is imaginary. The same fact should allow this person to become free of the idea of God to the point they should not even care about the rest of individuals who still believe in God.
When I see an individual (with all due respect) that makes 10 threads trying to prove why God is imaginary. The only two conclusions I can come up with are:

1) This person has not gotten the level of enlightment required to don't give a dime about God and those who believe in Him; or

2) This person has become a fundamentalist atheist whose only purpose in life is destroy the idea of God.

Personally, both instances are foolish because if this person has understood that God does not exist why even care. Let the crazy people be crazy, and be happy and grateful of your level of understanding that the rest of us does not have or this person is not in peace with his/her "enlightment" this the reason why this individual has focus his/her existance in the destruction of what he/she seems to reject.

Again if I believe that something does not exist why do I put so much energy in arguing that this thing does not exist?
It's enough to know of the non-existance of something and just live life to fullest.

However, to each one to his/her own delusion.

TLW.


well you left out the fact that those that believe in that imaginary creature can and use to cause them to kill those that call it an imaginary creature
laugh laugh laugh laugh


You are all about the killin lately arentcha?? I agree with you fully tho, not insulting!flowerforyou

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Sat 06/28/08 04:15 PM



Here is my point of view. If a person has come to a point of enlightment such that they have seen that God is imaginary. The same fact should allow this person to become free of the idea of God to the point they should not even care about the rest of individuals who still believe in God.
When I see an individual (with all due respect) that makes 10 threads trying to prove why God is imaginary. The only two conclusions I can come up with are:

1) This person has not gotten the level of enlightment required to don't give a dime about God and those who believe in Him; or

2) This person has become a fundamentalist atheist whose only purpose in life is destroy the idea of God.

Personally, both instances are foolish because if this person has understood that God does not exist why even care. Let the crazy people be crazy, and be happy and grateful of your level of understanding that the rest of us does not have or this person is not in peace with his/her "enlightment" this the reason why this individual has focus his/her existance in the destruction of what he/she seems to reject.

Again if I believe that something does not exist why do I put so much energy in arguing that this thing does not exist?
It's enough to know of the non-existance of something and just live life to fullest.

However, to each one to his/her own delusion.

TLW.


well you left out the fact that those that believe in that imaginary creature can and use to cause them to kill those that call it an imaginary creature
laugh laugh laugh laugh


You are all about the killin lately arentcha?? I agree with you fully tho, not insulting!flowerforyou


the religion is about the killing enslavement and torture of the human race ..that's the point I was trying to discuss in the thread "Belief or Betrayal" before it got locked by the moderators

Rapunzel's photo
Sat 06/28/08 04:23 PM

Here is my point of view. If a person has come to a point of enlightment such that they have seen that God is imaginary. The same fact should allow this person to become free of the idea of God to the point they should not even care about the rest of individuals who still believe in God.
When I see an individual (with all due respect) that makes 10 threads trying to prove why God is imaginary. The only two conclusions I can come up with are:

1) This person has not gotten the level of enlightment required to don't give a dime about God and those who believe in Him; or

2) This person has become a fundamentalist atheist whose only purpose in life is destroy the idea of God.

Personally, both instances are foolish because if this person has understood that God does not exist why even care. Let the crazy people be crazy, and be happy and grateful of your level of understanding that the rest of us does not have or this person is not in peace with his/her "enlightment" this the reason why this individual has focus his/her existance in the destruction of what he/she seems to reject.

Again if I believe that something does not exist why do I put so much energy in arguing that this thing does not exist?
It's enough to know of the non-existance of something and just live life to fullest.

However, to each one to his/her own delusion.

TLW.



drinker Amen Brother Miguel...The Lonely Walker drinker


I have thought the exact same thing

and have mentioned this on threads

for quite some time now flowerforyou

Thank you for addressing this subject

& for bringing it to the forefront

of our conversation and meditation...drinker




Rapunzel's photo
Sat 06/28/08 04:33 PM

Miguel, I am having such a hard time just making it right now. Bills are piling up and no car of my own. House in jeopardy of being repossed, I mean foreclosed on, not enough work hours, nervous all the time. My belief is getting stronger all the time. I must believe that something good will happen. Otherwise, I will have nothing to hang on to.

Kat




Kat, my heart and prayers are with you Sister :heart:

i am glad your faith is strengthening

i love you and hope all is well,

i wonder how you are doing

and pray that God meets

all of your Mom's & your needs

and provides you so graciously

with even some of your wants...


i almost hesitate to ask,

for fear of hearing the worst,

but how is little Chihuahua Chuy ??? :heart:





Rapunzel's photo
Sat 06/28/08 04:36 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Sat 06/28/08 04:37 PM
When darkness is upon me...


i say " this darkness is dawn not yet born...flowerforyou



and though the night's travail be still upon me


yet...dawn shall be born unto me...blushing


even as unto the hills " :heart: drinker flowerforyou drinker :heart:






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