if the two of you are happy stay together everyone needs love and friends

yea but im old school anyhow true i certainally didnt say that to hurt you!!!! i just said that cause i do care about others... hope you didnt get the wrong impression... just dont need another person with hiv or aids. its a sad sad thing.... and dont want you to get it either...

you can contract hiv in many ways, not just by sex. i know toothbrushes cant be shared, as if you have a ulcer in your mouth if you use the hiv persons toothbrush it can be passed on that way, if there is a open wound in a mouth, like after extractions, from a scale and polish, ulcers, etc

correct

wrong again Debbie and again this is not a personal attack on you, but this misinformation keeps others in fear of the unknown - just sharing

How HIV spreads

Do you know How HIV spreads?
HIV is found in blood, vaginal fluids, semen, and fluids that leak from the penis before orgasm. Outside the body, the virus is weak. Inside the body, it is strong. The virus lives in anyone exposed to it.

Vaginal sex: When a man puts his penis into a woman's vagina, it is called vaginal sex. If the man is infected with HIV, the fluids from his penis may get into the woman's bloodstream through a tiny tear in the vagina or through certain cells lining the vagina.

Anal sex: When a man puts his penis into his partner's anus, it is called anal sex. The rectum skin can easily tear during anal sex and allow fluids from the penis to get into a partner's bloodstream. Infection can pass the other way, too: the rectum can bleed if irritated by the penis, allowing infected blood into the body through the penis. Whether you are a man or a woman, anal intercourse is risky.

Oral sex: Contact between sex partners' genitals and mouth is oral sex. Virus in the fluids of the penis or vagina can get into the body through cuts or openings in the mouth.

Shooting drugs into veins: When people inject drugs, they also draw their blood into the needle and syringe. Other people using that needle and syringe without cleaning it, they can be exposed to infected blood in it when they shoot up.

Tattoos, ear piercing, and injecting steroids: If you share a needle with another person for any of these activities, you are risking HIV infection. The needle you share could be contaminated. There is no risk of infection with HIV if you get a tattoo or pierced ears from a professional who uses a sterile needle for each customer.

If you inject anabolic steroids with a sterile needle, there is no threat of infection with HIV. However, anabolic steroids, taken by injection or in pill form are dangerous. They can be deadly.

From pregnant woman or new mother to her child: If a woman is infected with HIV, there is a chance HIV will be passed on to her child during pregnancy or during birth. Medicine given to the mother before delivery can drastically reduce the chances of infection. The baby of an HIV-positive mother can also be infected with HIV through breast-feeding.

What about kissing? Small amounts of HIV have been found in the saliva of some people. But researchers have never found that HIV is spread by kissing. There isn't enough of the virus in saliva to cause infection. Most scientists agree you can enjoy kissing without worrying about AIDS transmission.

if you have a open wound in your mouth, and a person who is hiv posotive uses the same toothbrush that has blood on, that will get passed on, as it will go directly into the blood stream from the open wound. that is obvious and not hard to figure out.a open wound, and blood from a hiv posotive person, can be contracted that way.

where i worked they gave hiv posotive patients precautions, and that was one of them.

Are you just trying to make yourself look like a saint here ???.
I just wonder .
Scary situation .

you are soo misinformed - I have provided you with the various ways to contract HIV and will do so again.


Do you know How HIV spreads?
HIV is found in blood, vaginal fluids, semen, and fluids that leak from the penis before orgasm. Outside the body, the virus is weak. Inside the body, it is strong. The virus lives in anyone exposed to it.

**In short, studies indicate that HIV transmission requires intimate contact with infected blood or body fluids (vaginal secretions, semen, pre-ejaculation fluid, and breast milk). Activities that don't involve the possibility of such contact are regarded as posing no risk of infection.**

i know and have read it.

i have just texted one of the doctors who i used to work with, and toothbrushes cant be shared due to the reasons i said. when you clean your teeth sometimes your gums can bleed, therefore the tooth brush would be infected, so if someone else used the toothbrush and they had a open wound in there mouth, it can be contracted that way as well.

Inside the body, virus is strong...
outside the body, the virus weakens...

Can't see using a toothbrush immediately (or anytime)after someone else has used it (yuck)(but what do I know)

but we are both entitled to our opinions

Who would use the same tooth brush anyway. That's unsanitary.

I'm with you, pretty nasty sharing toothbrushes, but what do we know

you would only catch it from a toothbrush if the hiv posotive person has blood on there toothbrush, and then someone else used it lets say after a extraction, then the blood of the toothbrush would go into the wound and then into the blood stream. this isnt common as hiv is airbourne, but it can happen if both used the same toothbrush close together. hiv cant survive very long in the air.

i wouldnt share a toothbrush either lol, im just pointing this out, because sometimes you could accidently use the wrong toothbrush. like i said this is rare but it does happen. also ive known people contract hiv from going to the dentist, especially in countries who dont steralize using a autoclave. plus where i worked if we had a hiv, or hep b patient, all eqiptment would have to be thrown away and not steralised, as they do say RCT files even when steralised can pass diseases on. many dentists re-use them but i would throw them away, and yes i got in trouble because they cost money, but im not risking someones life.

i wouldnt yuk , but if youve got a family of 5 with similar toothbrushes, especially with children, they could accidently use the wrong one.

were I to entertain your scenario - here goes:
the only way the 'supposedly (after extraction) blood' on the toothbrush can infect another person ---- it is used immediately - the nasty person (reusing someone's toothbrush) also needs a open wound ....

Inside the body, virus is strong...
outside the body, the virus weakens...

thats exactly what i said, there would need to be blood on the infected persons toothbrush, and the person using it would have to have a open wound, and the toothbrushes would have to be used close together as hiv is airbourne, if you read my post you will see i said exactly that.

heres a copy and paste of where i said that before your post.

you would only catch it from a toothbrush if the hiv posotive person has blood on there toothbrush, and then someone else used it lets say after a extraction, then the blood of the toothbrush would go into the wound and then into the blood stream. this isnt common as hiv is airbourne, but it can happen if both used the same toothbrush close together. hiv cant survive very long in the air.

HIV IS NOT AIRBORNE! what are you talking about???
your scenario is not logical, I entertained it, however the operative words immediately also note too many maybes/ifs/buts in scenario - but it's my fault for entertaining it

My Gawd ya are hashing this subject to death.

First of all excuse me but if the Lady has had this for 20 years with a 9 year old daughter that is not infected.

Do ya not all understand that she must be taken every Precaution that can be taken?

I'm sure if she has been this honest with him that not only would she not do all that she can to protect him as well as his kids.

But now yes it is possible to contact HIV through a toothbrush it is not highly likely this will happen but there is a chance.


Can a person get HIV by kissing?

There has been one reported case of HIV transmission where a woman became infected by deep kissing with a man with AIDS. The man reported his gums often bled after brushing and flossing his teeth and that after this activity, the couple often engaged in deep kissing and protected sex. Although HIV transmission most likely occurred during deep kissing, it was probably the blood in the man's saliva, not his saliva alone, that caused the infection. Both the man and the woman had gum disease which may also have contributed to the woman becoming infected.

Trace amounts of HIV have been found in the saliva of some people with AIDS. However, to date there have been no cases of HIV transmission through exposure to saliva alone. Casual kissing, such as between parents and children, has not transmitted HIV.



17. Can a person get HIV from using someone's razor or toothbrush?

It is possible to get HIV from using someone ' s razor or toothbrush since these items can cause cuts and scrapes, and may contain blood from the infected person. It is wise to avoid sharing personal items that may come into contact with another person's blood.

There is one documented case of a child becoming HIV infected by sharing toothbrushes with parents who were both HIV infected. Transmission probably occurred from blood left on the toothbrushes.



18. Have people become infected with HIV as a result of living in the same household as a person with HIV infection or AIDS?

There are no reported cases of AIDS from casual contact with someone who has HIV or AIDS and there is no evidence that being around someone with HIV or AIDS, even for an extended period of time, puts people at risk. However, there have been four reported cases where household members became infected with HIV as a result of blood to blood contact, either by sharing a razor, getting stuck with a needle used for treatment, or by getting infected blood on a rash and/or on open sores.



So now with that said can't we just agree to disagree?

http://www.albany.edu/sph/AIDS/aids101_2.html

There is information all over the websites if we chose to read them.

Ya have a Great Day!!!!

hiv doesnt survive long in the air. i was told by a dentist i worked with, if you put fairly liquid on infected blood, it would actually kill hiv. i dont know exactly how long hiv lasts in the air, but i know it doesnt last long.