DavidBen the question posed to spidercmb was one that would require a believer to think above God and before creation in order to answer the question.. but instead of keeping it on that train of thought in order to possibly get an answer you deflected from it and sent it into the direction of pantheism ..which was a rather odd thing to do ...well not odd if one is preaching closet pantheism

is not every human a preacher when each word be spoken.....

are not all words just as thoughts spoken, and sharing of thoughts finds common thoughts, and therefore common thoughts have HUGE meaning, since no man created his first thought, and each has been a reaction to the first, and all others heard......

the truth has no name to me BUT TRUTH, as this define even in the heart FIRST that anything outside ones own self be as untrue, and this lead to no MORE truth than already seen......

i know nothing about nor have i ever heard of pantheism before ABRA......

i am indeed PLEASED to be identified with any religion that any man follows, as i see TRUTH in everything, as it is NOTHING MORE THAN ALL PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR AT ANY SECOND.......the truth of ALL that is happening each second......

not just in the first realm, but also in the second or unseen, and then next what be happening in BOTH simutaneously can be seen.....

this lead to then the forth realm, and so on till the seventh, which be the seventh day when "god" rest, or the believing in god or satan pass away, or just as viewing all thru good and bad.......this i hear you speaking of reasons why should happen, and why i see truth in all you say, and the wisdom that come from this realm be the only possible one to lead and create peace, and why i embrace all and speak all.............it is meant as no offense, and not as harm, but rather we EACH challenge to MORE

SEEING ALL AS TRUTH ALLOW ALL THINGS TO BE DIGESTED FROM ALL OTHER BEINGS, AND LEAD TO ALL KNOWING, WHICH LEAD TO THE WAY TO HAVE PEACE AND HAPPINESS AMOUNG ALL, AND WHY IT LEAD THRU RUGGED TERRITORY I AGREE, BUT INDEED THE END THEREOF BE PEACE AND TRANQUILITY FOR ALL, SINCE ALL SOLUTIONS FOR ANY DISTROUGHT CAN THEN BE SEEN.......WHAT OTHER REASON SPUR ONE THRU THE "PAIN" OF HEARING MORE, THAT EACH PASS THRU, AS TO ADD TO WHAT ONCE GAVE COMFORT SEEM AS IF AT FIRST TO SEPERATE THE SKIN FORM THE BODY, LOL.........THIS I HAVE FELT ALL NEEDED MYSELF ON THE WAY, LOL.....

NOT SURE OF ANYTHING ELSE TO REPLY FOR MY ODD BEHAVIOR, BUT INDEED THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS, AS I KNOW AT FIRST YOU HEARD MORE HARSH ONES YOU DIGESTED FIRST TO COME TO THESE.....

YOU ARE A GRACIOUS ONE FUNCHES, AND WHY MANY ARE ATTRACTED TO YOUR LOGIC AND WISDOM, AND THIS I INDEED SEE MYSELF AND RESPECT, AND KNOW COMES FROM ALL TRUTH AND EVEN YOUR OWN GOD YOUR HEART......

I CONSIDER YOU AS AN EQUAL IN ALL WAYS, AND WHY I SPEAK ALL, AS I AM FULLY CONFIDENT THAT NO OTHER DOES NOT ALREADY KNOW ALL THE THINGS I SPEAK, AND SO WHAT CAN ULTIMATELY BE HAD BY SPEAKING ALL BUT COMMON BROTHERHOOD........

DO NOT CHANGE MY FRIEND, AS EACH SO SEEK TO NOT CHANGE WHAT STRENGTHEN AND GUIDE THEM, BUT TO EVOLVE AND SEE MORE IS NOT TO CHANGE THE PERFECT WAYS OF A MAN, BUT RATHER TO EVOLVE INTO EVEN MORE PERFECTION.......

I DO NOT MEAN TO STOP ANY DIOLOGUE, BUT RATHER AM MYSELF ALSO A SLAVE TO SPEAKING ALL, AS EVEN ONES OWN WORDS FROM THE HEART SPOKEN GUIDE THEMSELVES MORE THAN OTHERS, AND ALWAYS RING BACK AFTER SPOKEN, AND SO TO SPEAK ALL ALLOW MORE OF THE HEART TO COME FORTH, FROM WHERE ALL LOVE WAS ONCE REPORTED TO BE HIDDEN, MOST BY UNSPOKEN WORDS.......

KEEP SPEAKING IT ALL FUNCHES, AS INDEED YOU AS EACH IS AN INSPIRATION TO BRING ALL AROUND EACH TO SEEING MORE......THANKS