Topic: The Planet Nibiru/ The gods who created us? | |
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This is the studies of a ancient religion now a mythology. The Sumerian Gods and Goddesses!
Information about Sumerian Gods and Goddesses is found on the Sumerian King List as well as Sumerian clay tablets and cylinder seals. The Sumerian King List records all the rulers of Earth back over 400,000 YEARS! These Gods were called the Nephilim Nefilim, Elohim, the Annunaki - "Those who from Heaven to Earth came." In Sumerian Mythology they were a pantheon of good and evil gods and goddesses who came to Earth to create the human race. According to the some resources, these gods came from Nibiru - 'Planet of the Crossing.' The Assyrians and Babylonians called it 'Marduk', after their chief god. Sumerians said one year on planet Nibiru, a sar, was equivalent in time to 3600 Earth years. Annunaki lifespans were 120 sars which is 120 x 3600 or 432,000 years. According to the King List - 120 sars had passed from the time the Annunaki arrived on Earth to the time of the Flood. Imagine being able to live 432,000 years! Wow! The Annunaki are sometimes depicted as humanoid. At other times they are bird-headed with wings. Often they are Reptilian in appearance especially when depicted as warriors. Some believe the Annunaki are the creators of our species. How do you feel about it and could you believe this also? |
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I would belive anything until it is proven one way or the other. A lot of people belive in wilder stuff then that without proof.
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another reference you could check into is the enumma elish, scholars believe genesis was mimicked after this text... which it talks about marduke, tiamat , etc.
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i wouldn't call it wild stuff ... no religion has been proven so if you think believing in 1 god that divided himself up in 3 ways and is all good and all powerful but yet now never shows himself nor does he use is all powerful aspect to make the world.. then that would be pretty wild to me than believing in a pantheon of gods and goddesses... all religions are illogical and wild, in the end what you say depends upon where you stand. aka if you're born in say the 1950s american you'll believe in this religion if you're born in 1950's in china you'd believe this, or if you're born in 1200 not yet founded by columbus you'd believe in this way... we've all been taught are religions and when we believe them they no longer seem to be " wild" but when we hear a new one... its like no one that couldn't have happened... I would belive anything until it is proven one way or the other. A lot of people belive in wilder stuff then that without proof. |
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read this ... http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~thompsoc/Body.html
its a new way to look at things.. |
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Thank you for additional information!
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i wouldn't call it wild stuff ... no religion has been proven so if you think believing in 1 god that divided himself up in 3 ways and is all good and all powerful but yet now never shows himself nor does he use is all powerful aspect to make the world.. then that would be pretty wild to me than believing in a pantheon of gods and goddesses... all religions are illogical and wild, in the end what you say depends upon where you stand. aka if you're born in say the 1950s american you'll believe in this religion if you're born in 1950's in china you'd believe this, or if you're born in 1200 not yet founded by columbus you'd believe in this way... we've all been taught are religions and when we believe them they no longer seem to be " wild" but when we hear a new one... its like no one that couldn't have happened... I would belive anything until it is proven one way or the other. A lot of people belive in wilder stuff then that without proof. That's a good and fair take on the subject, i know other's here agree with smiles post such as JB, but i think my writing's are more in the vain of SG4life's views, we are all product's of what our social and time environment's and parent's and peer's influences cast upon us. What we may be or think as individual's without those influences no one will ever know for sure. But i do write - take away those things and we would all be different than we are now. |
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i have a degree in religious studies from the academic perspective logically speaking no religion is logical yet we all fully believe in our own religions that were taught to us. I do not claim a religion what i merely do is accept the possibility of a supreme being or the possibility that there is no supreme being ... I hope there is but what i like to ask people is if no one ever told you about your god would you know it existed? if no one told you and there was no bible..
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I have to again agree with you on this i have done the same also as to asking that of myself and other's. I believe man need's the religious opiate that a god offer's him - but i see none in history that offer one a god that is infinitely wise and all else - all sound like those a man would dream up not of a god who was creator of all.
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one of my favorite quotes was told to me by my mentor about her mentor elizabeth schuzzler fiorenza ~truth is constructed~
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Edited by
smiless
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Tue 06/24/08 12:03 PM
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Perhaps there is no god! what would the world possibly do? (said sarcastically).
I mean would we have 5.5 billion people depressed and not wanting to live anymore if it was proven there is no such thing as a creator or a god? Could the world be better off without a religion? Is our world full of superstitions? I know with a open mind we have a better possiblity of understanding other cultures and lifestyles and why they practice these religions and mythologies. I have no degree in religion, but I often find myself wondering why this is so and how everything started. I usually end up using the study of history and transform it into fantasy writings. Sounds ironic I know! Perhaps it is no different for those who wrote the Koran, Bible, and Torah! In the long run I find the Sumerian Mythology one of the oldest civilizations to believe of many gods who come from a different planet called Nibiru. Since it is recorded as one of the oldest, could they be responsible for making religion popular in the first place? There is a Sumerian tablet in Berlin, Germany that shows of a solar system. How did they know about a solar system at the time? Could it be all made up? Could it be true that perhaps the Annunaki, one of the three gods came here with spaceships and had this information? Could it just be all superstitions made up to benefit financially later on or to control people? questions, questions, questions! |
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I Brief summary of the story from a website:
The story of the Anunnaki is told in Sitchin's many books and is digested, augmented and speculated about in dozens of websites. But the tale is essentially this: About 450,000 years ago, Alalu, the deposed ruler of the Anunnaki on Nibiru, escaped the planet on a spaceship and found refuge on Earth. He discovered that Earth had plenty of gold, which Nibiru needed to protect its diminishing atmosphere. They began to mine Earth's gold, and there were a lot of political battles among the Anunnaki for power. Then around 300,000 years or so ago, the Anunnaki decided to create a race of workers by genetically manipulating the primates on the planet. The result was homo sapiens - us. Eventually, rulership of the Earth was handed over to humans and the Anunnaki left, at least for the time being. Sitchin ties all this - and much more - into the stories of the first books of the Bible and the histories of other ancient cultures, especially Egyptian. It's an astonishing story, to say the least. Most historians, anthropologists and archaeologists consider it all Sumerian myth, of course. But Sitchin's work has created a diehard cadre of believers and researchers who take the story at face value. And some of them, whose ideas are getting widespread attention thanks to the Internet, contend that the return of Nibiru is close at hand - possibly as soon as somewhere between 2003 and 2013! ********************************************** Well here it is 2008. 4 or 5 more years and we will know maybe. JB |
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first of all you need no degree to speak your beliefs.
second of all what if your gods and goddesses were those of other civilizations merely called something else due to the change of language look at the roman and greeks practically they have the same gods and goddesses yet they have different names, or look at the christian God, he is God, holy spirit, jesus, yawah, the unnamed, the almighty, he could be zeus, marduke next if you wanted to suggest you wish to believe in the oldest religion i would suggest you go back to goddess worshipping, because goddess worshipping is the oldest religion check out the catal huyuk, the goddess of willendorf , look at the shakenah ( spelling may be off) in the torah she is Gods female half and she is the beauty of life and she is the tree of life which also encomposes death ... ... there is an anthropologist that said there has been 4 movements 1 is the goddess ruling alone, 2 is the goddess ruling with a male cohert, 3 is the goddess and god ruling together, and the 4th is the god ruling the 4th is where the enumma elish comes in or the marduke and tiamat that you are speaking of in this marduke beats tiamat and uses her to create the world and thus he rules alone... lastly but not least to all youv'e said i think voltaire says it best with " if god did not exist it would be necessary to create him" Perhaps there is no god! what would the world possibly do? (said sarcastically). I mean would we have 5.5 billion people depressed and not wanting to live anymore if it was proven there is no such thing as a creator or a god? Could the world be better off without a religion? Is our world full of superstitions? I know with a open mind we have a better possiblity of understanding other cultures and lifestyles and why they practice these religions and mythologies. I have no degree in religion, but I often find myself wondering why this is so and how everything started. I usually end up using the study of history and transform it into fantasy writings. Sounds ironic I know! Perhaps it is no different for those who wrote the Koran, Bible, and Torah! In the long run I find the Sumerian Mythology one of the oldest civilizations to believe of many gods who come from a different planet called Nibiru. Since it is recorded as one of the oldest, could they be responsible for making religion popular in the first place? There is a Sumerian tablet in Berlin, Germany that shows of a solar system. How did they know about a solar system at the time? Could it be all made up? Could it be true that perhaps the Annunaki, one of the three gods came here with spaceships and had this information? Could it just be all superstitions made up to benefit financially later on or to control people? questions, questions, questions! |
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Edited by
tribo
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Tue 06/24/08 12:12 PM
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one of my favorite quotes was told to me by my mentor about her mentor elizabeth schuzzler fiorenza ~truth is constructed~ hahaha - then what your saying is all my truth's are lies - i can't prove otherwise but i like to think that there are some truth's that exist that are pure seen truth's like the natural law's, even if they may not be infinite. |
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well you could take it that way, or you could take it that nothing is truth but everything is, what your truth is, may not be what my truth is but you have no right to call my truth lies, nor do i yours. one of my favorite quotes was told to me by my mentor about her mentor elizabeth schuzzler fiorenza ~truth is constructed~ hahaha - then what your saying is all my truth's are lies - i can't prove otherwise but i like to think that there are some truth's that exist that are pure seen truth's like the natural law's, even if they may not be infinite. |
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well you could take it that way, or you could take it that nothing is truth but everything is, what your truth is, may not be what my truth is but you have no right to call my truth lies, nor do i yours. one of my favorite quotes was told to me by my mentor about her mentor elizabeth schuzzler fiorenza ~truth is constructed~ hahaha - then what your saying is all my truth's are lies - i can't prove otherwise but i like to think that there are some truth's that exist that are pure seen truth's like the natural law's, even if they may not be infinite. sorry i should not have said "you" you were only quoting another, i did not take it the way you think i was being comical about is - sorry. |
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Edited by
smiless
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Tue 06/24/08 12:20 PM
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first of all you need no degree to speak your beliefs. second of all what if your gods and goddesses were those of other civilizations merely called something else due to the change of language look at the roman and greeks practically they have the same gods and goddesses yet they have different names, or look at the christian God, he is God, holy spirit, jesus, yawah, the unnamed, the almighty, he could be zeus, marduke next if you wanted to suggest you wish to believe in the oldest religion i would suggest you go back to goddess worshipping, because goddess worshipping is the oldest religion check out the catal huyuk, the goddess of willendorf , look at the shakenah ( spelling may be off) in the torah she is Gods female half and she is the beauty of life and she is the tree of life which also encomposes death ... ... there is an anthropologist that said there has been 4 movements 1 is the goddess ruling alone, 2 is the goddess ruling with a male cohert, 3 is the goddess and god ruling together, and the 4th is the god ruling the 4th is where the enumma elish comes in or the marduke and tiamat that you are speaking of in this marduke beats tiamat and uses her to create the world and thus he rules alone... lastly but not least to all youv'e said i think voltaire says it best with " if god did not exist it would be necessary to create him" Perhaps there is no god! what would the world possibly do? (said sarcastically). I mean would we have 5.5 billion people depressed and not wanting to live anymore if it was proven there is no such thing as a creator or a god? Could the world be better off without a religion? Is our world full of superstitions? I know with a open mind we have a better possiblity of understanding other cultures and lifestyles and why they practice these religions and mythologies. I have no degree in religion, but I often find myself wondering why this is so and how everything started. I usually end up using the study of history and transform it into fantasy writings. Sounds ironic I know! Perhaps it is no different for those who wrote the Koran, Bible, and Torah! In the long run I find the Sumerian Mythology one of the oldest civilizations to believe of many gods who come from a different planet called Nibiru. Since it is recorded as one of the oldest, could they be responsible for making religion popular in the first place? There is a Sumerian tablet in Berlin, Germany that shows of a solar system. How did they know about a solar system at the time? Could it be all made up? Could it be true that perhaps the Annunaki, one of the three gods came here with spaceships and had this information? Could it just be all superstitions made up to benefit financially later on or to control people? questions, questions, questions! Oh I know that I don't have to have a religion degree to speak my beliefs. I just say that I don't have a degree in religion. There are over thousands of religious belief systems and it would take many many lifetimes to know them all. What I am trying to get at is if we can somehow find the very first known religious belief system and see if it was just a continous work in evolving newer religions. Sumerians may have not been the first, but perhaps the most influential at its time that helped create present religions. If this did happened then why was it changed so many times to where it doesnt' have any similiarity today. I mean the bible, koran, torah, etc. do not speak of aliens that created the human race or landing on our planet from another planet with a spaceship. I know I don't have the answers and probably will never have them, yet perhaps we can come closer if we find the root of how religion started. Perhaps you have information to share that could help in this matter. |
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I Brief summary of the story from a website: The story of the Anunnaki is told in Sitchin's many books and is digested, augmented and speculated about in dozens of websites. But the tale is essentially this: About 450,000 years ago, Alalu, the deposed ruler of the Anunnaki on Nibiru, escaped the planet on a spaceship and found refuge on Earth. He discovered that Earth had plenty of gold, which Nibiru needed to protect its diminishing atmosphere. They began to mine Earth's gold, and there were a lot of political battles among the Anunnaki for power. Then around 300,000 years or so ago, the Anunnaki decided to create a race of workers by genetically manipulating the primates on the planet. The result was homo sapiens - us. Eventually, rulership of the Earth was handed over to humans and the Anunnaki left, at least for the time being. Sitchin ties all this - and much more - into the stories of the first books of the Bible and the histories of other ancient cultures, especially Egyptian. It's an astonishing story, to say the least. Most historians, anthropologists and archaeologists consider it all Sumerian myth, of course. But Sitchin's work has created a diehard cadre of believers and researchers who take the story at face value. And some of them, whose ideas are getting widespread attention thanks to the Internet, contend that the return of Nibiru is close at hand - possibly as soon as somewhere between 2003 and 2013! ********************************************** Well here it is 2008. 4 or 5 more years and we will know maybe. JB Yes we have talked about this before Jeannie, The only problem I have with the planet Nibiru, which is suppose to enter our solar system and cross paths with Earth is how will it pass the asteroid field without getting destroyed. I mean this is on youtube predictions I am going with. Perhaps there are more planets in our solar system that we just don't know about and claim we do! Scientists in Europe claim they have discovered Earth like planets a few trillion light years away from us. It is amazing how they can predict this with the technology we have. Who are we to say they are wrong right! |
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Hmmm not to toss a hook into the discussion here but if we look back upon all the writings of men and the references to the "GODS" we do find that they all agree on one thing and that is a long time ago they came from the heavens to create mankind. Could it be possible that all the dif races here were indeed planted to show the universe that dif races could or would live together? We are a race that mimics are forfathers and we have this incredible urge to seek out new and unique places to live. Even now there is discussions of a Mars colony. There was a book I read a few years ago that all I can remember is it refered to our planet as an experiment. It even went as far to suggest that this may be how the Universe is seeded with life.
That our life here is unique but not to the universe. That our "Father" is indeed universal and we are just another planet they found that can supprot life. I know it sounds far fetched but it can explain alot of the different beliefs from basic wiccan to Muslim. I wish I could remember the name of the author. it was a GREAT book. It makes you think. |
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the bible does say things about aliens, however, scholars interpret it to mean " strangers" not that it includes a lot. I think you have great questions and they are questions that i can't answer honestly i don't have the specialization in it enough to answer them and i won't try to fabricate anything. my best answer is to try to read books on it books by people with phds academic pursuits to it not faith based. If you get a faith based book you'll have someone trying to pursuade you to believe verses academics that will tell you about the religion itself, either that or try to look up phd people with specializations in this area or in ancient writings and try emailing them...
the goddess of willendorf is the oldest artifact that we've recorvered and its one of teh goddess and then catal huyuk is one of the earliest villages we've come across and it is completely goddess worshipping however we do know obviously there was a shift, but what inspired those shifts i honestly don't think we know. religion to me in my opinion is interpretation and i don't think we'll know until it is time for us to experience the afterlife. |
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