No there is no way to force someone to pay their child support. However there is plenty of room in the jail house for those that refuse to follow a court order. Ask my ex, she missed visiting one by two days for not paying her child support. She thought she could get away with not working, and thus claim she could not pay the support due to lack of income. Michigan's courts turned that thinking process around real fast.

So I still say, get the dna testing done. Find the parent and make them either pay their support or go to jail. I garuntee most parents will choose to pay, if jail time starts getting enforced, rather than spend the rest of their lives in jail.

I don't know if anyone else has suggested this as far as up in government before, so don't think I am quoting an article or anything here. I just have an opinion on something and want to know what your ideas are.

I believe that all children when they are born should be required to have their dna tested, and databased. This is for several reasons too.

1. It would help increase the likelihood of finding something wrong (like parkinsons disease, or leukemia, etc) sooner, thus having a better chance of resolving the problem.

2. It will take some time, but after so long, when children are born and have their dna registered, if the father ran away during the pregnancy, the dna can be matched against the database (just like fingerprinting in crimes) and the father can be identified, and thus made to pay child support. In the case of pregnancies by rape, this could also be an effective tool, as not only would they have the name of the father, but obviously they would have the rapist as well.

3. If for some reason you are in an accident, and unconcious, the hospital can run a dna check on you, and find out who you are and let your family know.

There are several more good reasons for this to be done, but I am going to wait and see how much people come in and start bashing my head against the wall fro even considering the idea of a national registry, which would be a restriction against their personal freedoms and such. Even though you are required to have a blood test done at birth now in order to get your blood type.

I just ask one simple consideration folks. If you can not come in and remain calm and rational, please do not post. There is no need for ranting or crying out servitude, etc.

Daniel this is good in theory but not logical. Where there is a will there is a way to avoid responsibilities. The jails are not full of child support avoiders as the courts are overcrowded not because they dont know where the slackers are.

As for your guarantee also illogical, better said, you think for you cannot guarantee the actions of others.

re: mugging (identification) Rather wait until I was reported missing than be profiled or entered into a data base. JMO

Nothing is ever perfect hun, as you said someone willing to can always find a way. But should we always say no to an idea simply because it is not perfect and foolproof? As you said nothing is foolproof.

Should we also assume to speak for the masses. I only shared my personal opinion. I would be totally against it, but thats me.

thats all I was looking for is an opinion, and why that opinion is the way it is. I for one, obviously am for it. I believe the pros far outweigh the cons. I am sick of seeing indigent parents going around, neglecting their kids. I am so heartsick from seeing kids with cancer and other issues that could be helped by testing.
I am all for getting rapists off the streets. I could go on and on with the benefits, but that would take too much time and space

most women think the same thing when it is them that pay the support. But guess what hun? Their opinion doesn't matter, it is what you and the courts decide.
If you do not want them in the child's life, and have valid reasoning not to let them in, then you go to the court and the court orders no contact, while still paying support. However, if you do not have a valid reason for denying contact, then yes the other parent DOES have the right to pop in if they want to. Nothing you can do about it. SO by all means, that being the way it is, again, you should be willing to do what it takes to secure your child the money that they have a legal right to. And DNA testing is one way to doso.

Watch the movie Gattaca .....it will open you eyes to dna testing

Gattaca was dealing with manipulation of DNA

I don't know if anyone else has suggested this as far as up in government before, so don't think I am quoting an article or anything here. I just have an opinion on something and want to know what your ideas are.

I believe that all children when they are born should be required to have their dna tested, and databased. This is for several reasons too.

1. It would help increase the likelihood of finding something wrong (like parkinsons disease, or leukemia, etc) sooner, thus having a better chance of resolving the problem.

2. It will take some time, but after so long, when children are born and have their dna registered, if the father ran away during the pregnancy, the dna can be matched against the database (just like fingerprinting in crimes) and the father can be identified, and thus made to pay child support. In the case of pregnancies by rape, this could also be an effective tool, as not only would they have the name of the father, but obviously they would have the rapist as well.

3. If for some reason you are in an accident, and unconcious, the hospital can run a dna check on you, and find out who you are and let your family know.

There are several more good reasons for this to be done, but I am going to wait and see how much people come in and start bashing my head against the wall fro even considering the idea of a national registry, which would be a restriction against their personal freedoms and such. Even though you are required to have a blood test done at birth now in order to get your blood type.

I just ask one simple consideration folks. If you can not come in and remain calm and rational, please do not post. There is no need for ranting or crying out servitude, etc.

whole idea sounds too much like communism to me

Not with the benefits as you state, but with your opinion.

Question to you, how do you foresee this type of testing as a form of assistance?

Getting rapists off the streets, should be a priority, but also relate to the ones that never report the occurrence. Profiling/databasing will not help in my opinion.

Okay mister. Listen here, how about the sporatic in and out that some men/women do. It is psychologically damaging to young kids and even older ones. Second of all do you have any idea how horrible and difficult it is to get a person declared unfit enough for rights to be yanked. Let me tell you a personally know of cases where "dad" comes in and out of the children's lives every 6-7 months but he is still entitled to every other weekend. "mom" has tried to get visitation yanked because the children cry over it. "stepdad" wants to adopt "dad" won't allow it. Oh and he has beat the kids, and neglected them. There was even a FOUNDED report of child abuse. So I am sorry your idea doesn't fly.

This is not a new idea. Insurance companies have been pushing for it for years.
Their idea is to use the common genes that mark DNA of people with diabetes, breast cancer, heart disease, etc. They want to use this information to group people. These markers although not one hundred percent conclusive often show up years before the person actually shows signs of the medical problem. Diabetes for instance often does not strike a person before their middle ages. Many times the disease never becomes active.
Those with the markers will be charged different rates for health and life insurance. They could also be refused employment in certain careers etc.
There are benefits to law enforcement and benefits to medical research, but you will also lose personal privacy and individual rights in the process.
I guess it comes down to how much you value these rights.

Again it is not perfect. Like you mentioned, what about those who dont report rape? the only thing I can see we could do is better education, and raising of our children so that they have enough respect and self confidence that if they are attacked they can feel safe with going to the police and not worry about being victimized more.

I never mentioned anythign about profiling eiother, at elast that I am aware of. I hate the idea of profiling, it is a form of stereotyping, and as far as I am concerned it is a form of discrimination. Databasing CAN help though, depending on what it is you database.

First of all calm donw, and stop getting aggressive. I never said none of this happens. I know it happens. Secondly, what does naything you just said have to do with dna databasing, in order to find indigent parents and help make them pay support for their child?

Finally\, keep in mind I am one of the close to one percent of men who HAS gotten parental rights removed fromt he mother due to health and safety concerns with the childre. I CAN garuntee you I have been through a harder tiome doing this than any mother you know trying to reove from the father. I also have to ask, in the case where the mother ahs tried to remove, has she done EVERYTHING she could to support the father seeing the kids? Or has she done everythign she could to cause problems with it, like so many women do? I am not syaing either side of it as I dont know. but none of this has anythign to do witht he topic at hand.