Drivinmenutz,

I don't know as I'd say he's no worse.

He'll continue the Bush Doctrine, to me, that's worse.

As for 'manipulating people through public speech', he's not very good at that, unless you count the 28-percenter Bush zombies who believe everything he says.

He's been sticking his foot in his mouth a lot lately.

that's a good thing then... His public speaking ability was his biggest advantage. It used to frustrate me how he'd literally say nothing, and so many people would preach about how great he is and how he will change the world. As war machine mentioned, i would love to see Obama in a debate with someone like Ron Paul.

I don't know much about him but i heard some good things about Bob Barr too (another presidential nominee).

Barr is okay, but his last minute switch from Republican to Libertarian, makes him kinda suspect.

Still better than Obama by far. He mentioned he's going to speak out against the North American union during the debates. That should prove to be interesting. His ideas about cutting back government spending, and shrinking the federal government are also great ideas. I know he's no Ron Paul, but he's much better than either Obama or McCain, both of whom you and i know, will just conduct "business as usual". But i will admit i have yet to cross reference his beliefs with his voting record.

taking a look at Barr's record is on my list of things as well.

Well actually...it's an election year & so it's beat up on reps & pump up these horrible DEM choices. Obama needs all the help he can get...just ask Oprah, his little puppet master.

Not that McCain is any better. I can't stomach him either.

You people wanted this global mess now we all have to suffer for it. You can blame yourselves too for this war on terror. ANYONE who bought into the global economy one world govt. is part of the problem. There can never be enough govt. for you. You can't hide behind the brave forever. One day you will still get your spanking.

Well I didn't vote for King George, so I don't know what you mean by 'blame yourselves'.

Those who voted for unrestrained executive power can blame THEMselves for getting the government they received.

Those are the same ones who want to continue to favor a unholy cabal of rich white men who have a stranglehold on this country, spy on whomever they please, ignore the Geneva Convention, continue a senseless war that only benefits the war profiteers, etc..., etc...

I could go on.

You get the picture.

It's time to put an end once and for all to too much Executive power, and nail the coffin lid on it so it never, ever, happens again!

Have you thought about Obama possibly picking Hillary as a running mate hiker?

Will that matter to you?

Well Fanta, I'm glad you asked.

At this point, I don't think Obama owes Hillary anything, least of all a VP spot.

He will need to give her something, I suppose.

Perhaps a Health and Human Services cabinet post, since health reform is an important issue for her.

LOL, You still didnt answer my question.

the way I understand your spiel here, is that yuo do not like the idea of having presidential candidtae Obmama, as President because he is popular with the world?
You would much rather have a President that the wrold despises (or at least dislikes), and thus less likely to get concessions from the rest of the world towards peace and prosperity?

Personlly it will be much easier for this to happen with someone who is liked byt hte world at large, rather than someone who is not.

I think the point of the argument is that we should get out of the mindset that we are trying to win the world's approval. It should be about maintaining sovereignty and independence.

I would not choose anyone because the world liked him. In fact i would keep that from influencing my decision all together. There are many problems in politics that start when someone cares more about how they look, than addressing the real issues at hand.

What i have a problem with is those that believe we should be taken care of by our government from cradle to grave. This is where you lose freedom. That is the threat i see right now. Dependency on foreign products, relying of the government to take control of education (and they are pushing for them to take over health care too), things like the "patriot act", illegal immigration....the list goes on. Pushing for a North American unity (like the one in Europe). These are all very serious threats. Hell, if we took out NAFTA, and stopped out sourcing so much you'd see our economy start to climb. If the IRS didn't exist the government couldn't put the chokehold on the states that they so often do. Not to mention the lack of federal income tax also leaves more money for Americans to spend. (Yay Ron Paul!!) These are all pretty much things Obama isn't touching. The reason i dislike him is the fact that he promises "change". Says he will end the war. But he really doesn't have any ideas, he just knows how to motivate a crowd. (But to do what?)

Nuff Said!

Sorry Fanta.

I'll be more specific.

Yes, I've thought about it, but don't think it's very likely.

And, yes, it would matter to me.

Me too

I wished he'd make his decision.
Some are talking about him picking Jim Webb. The Republican turned Democrat and decorated Vietnam Marine Vet.

That would be a good choice..

Not familiar with Jim Webb, but it might be a good choice.

Wonder why he left the Republican Party?

Anyway, with a vet on the ticket it might ease fears that Obama will be weak on defense.

Webb received the Navy Cross for actions on July 10, 1969. The citation read:

“ The Navy Cross is presented to James H. Webb, Jr., First Lieutenant, U.S. Marine Corps, for extraordinary heroism while serving as a Platoon Commander with Company D, First Battalion, Fifth Marines, First Marine Division (Reinforced), Fleet Marine Force, in connection with combat operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On 10 July 1969, while participating in a company-sized search and destroy operation deep in hostile territory, First Lieutenant Webb's platoon discovered a well-camouflaged bunker complex that appeared to be unoccupied. Deploying his men into defensive positions, First Lieutenant Webb was advancing to the first bunker when three enemy soldiers armed with hand grenades jumped out. Reacting instantly, he grabbed the closest man and, brandishing his .45 caliber pistol at the others, apprehended all three of the soldiers. Accompanied by one of his men, he then approached the second bunker and called for the enemy to surrender. When the hostile soldiers failed to answer him and threw a grenade that detonated dangerously close to him, First Lieutenant Webb detonated a claymore mine in the bunker aperture, accounting for two enemy casualties and disclosing the entrance to a tunnel. Despite the smoke and debris from the explosion and the possibility of enemy soldiers hiding in the tunnel, he then conducted a thorough search that yielded several items of equipment and numerous documents containing valuable intelligence data. Continuing the assault, he approached a third bunker and was preparing to fire into it when the enemy threw another grenade. Observing the grenade land dangerously close to his companion, First Lieutenant Webb simultaneously fired his weapon at the enemy, pushed the Marine away from the grenade, and shielded him from the explosion with his own body. Although sustaining painful fragmentation wounds from the explosion, he managed to throw a grenade into the aperture and completely destroy the remaining bunker. By his courage, aggressive leadership, and selfless devotion to duty, First Lieutenant Webb upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.[6]

His son just returned from service in Iraq. He is a Marine too.
Hes the senator who wrote the new GI Bill. Im not sure why he changed parties, but he just did in 2006!

Wasn't Webb an early drop out in the race for Repulican presidential nominee? If I recall he was criticized for a passage in a fiction book he wrote.