At 2:30 in the morning after a night of drinking? yes.

hes just looking 4 a stepping stone .. weak . And didnt realize he had a rock of self confidence in front of him .. lol

First time in my life I'm ashamed to be a man...boy's ruin it for us...

He will do it again, and some poor lady might fall for it. Soon she will be the next "ex".

Did the thought cross your mind that HIS STORY, give you BOTH something to talk about?
Its his ex,,he said she still uses him and HE'S addicted to her for their lust...
You gave him your attention all night and closed the bar, both FEELING "HAPPY" in HIS mind.
So he thought he would ask you about spending the night together

Not something he would have ever first asked you that night when he wasn't drinking..
JUST something he asked THEN, because HE FELT you MIGHT LIKE him
and hell your so understanding and caring you might be a person to explore more NOW, as HE'S BOLD THINKING NOW..

Hello, the guys trying to get over his ex.
He only lusts for her, not INLOVE with her.
He's NEW to reaching out and on asking a lady to bed in the right perspective. BUT, YOU should have seen THIS QUESTION coming as you were able to see his eyes and mannerisens all night..To NOT feel secure in ANYONE'S company is someone YOU shouldn't close a bar down with..
MOST men think shallow as to sleeping with ANY lady,lol so to close a bar,,,sure, many a couple will stay together that night.

But if YOU don't KNOW this I DON'T know WHY?

Men are MEN,,,and close talks and alcohol mixed with another single lady who is pretty and caring,,,,,,,,,,and STAYS FOREVER
with you at a club or bar,,,,,,,,,DAH....Hes thinking,,,,SHE WANTS ME,wink...

Well, i'm not the "go home from the bar" kinda girl first off.

However if he had an ounce of brains in his head, he wouldn't have talked about his ex the whole time, he would have hidden his lack of self confidence.

And yes, I have talked to friends way past closing time, men and women, it was a group of friends, I was not well acquainted with him, but still run in the same circle.

Ohhh... but you know as well as I he would've done this even if were a date. I've had soooooo many of those dates. If a guy brings up his ex and I did not ask, I'm out. If he trashes her when I ask, I'm out.

Are you for real? You're saying it was my fault for talking to him? That I should have known that if I talked to him in a kind and caring manner, that of course he would want to and expect to sleep with me?

How old are you again?

oh no he didnt .. lol im leaving

I'll pose my origanol question again....

What makes people's self-esteem get so low?

I'm going to go with lack of self-awareness.

Ya, I think you're right....

For him, your yearning man, ignorance is not bliss. Very sad.

I wouldn't call it yearning, I think I paid him attention, positive attention, and he's not used to that.... which is sad, and in his control, which is what I tried to tell him last night.

He'll get it when he hits bottom, maybe. Or gets wrapped up in another woman. You did what you could do and that is all you can do. Kudos!

So many other loves or people putting THEM down and or lying to them about their love. Then making THEM feel low
ITS MY FAULT, syndrome...Repeatedly...and thus,,,,LOW SELF ESTEEN.....

No, low self-esteem comes from within. I disagree it comes from others. Outside influences might be the fuel for the proverbial fire, but it is the acceptance of those falsehoods that is the choice of the "victim".

It is a choice. If you are self-aware, you see this. And stay strong from the inside out.

So you allow others to deem your self worth? That's a slippery slope don't you think?

With all the self help books, and all the couselors, and all the talk shows for God's sake, you'd think people would learn that confidence comes from within.

That you seek and do not find with in, you surely will not find without.

Ohhh snap Lily.... I think we are on parallel mind thoughts here...