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Religion has been around for maybe 3,000 years at the very most. Spirituality and philosophy have been around for thousands of more years. Who decides what's right and what's wrong? Isn't it all upon an individual basis as to what we believe or disbelieve? In all my research and studies over the years the only proof that I've seen is that religion seems to segregate and tear each other apart rather than bring everyone together. Most of the wars in the last 1000 years have been over religions and whose is better. People have been burned, tortured, killed and gone into hiding due to their beliefs over the years. I believe the question becomes when does it stop and where does the peace and harmony come into play?  When man ceases to see one man as his friend
and another man as his enemy
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 "GOD" is the one true love
Love is the one true "GOD"
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But isn't this cyber net a wonderful place to practice?
We cuss and discuss these options all the time in here. How far do we reach? All across the waters and nations. We tell our truths and listen to others' truths. We bicker back and forth and when it is all said and done...we learn something. Whether we wanted to or not. We learn. Where does it start and where does it end? I don't know....but isn't this a wondefful place to begin? We have at our disposal...the ears of the world. Careful what we say. Our words may cause harm, they cause love. This canvas we call earth is an astounding mass of minds, listening....telling. Kat |
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I believe that when and if mutual respect and dignity are a universal expectancy and paramount to any social contract, then peace and harmony will reign.
We may not make it as a species to that point. But I believe in it.  sorry I can't resist:
If the "scial contract" includes laws that do not exclude ANY PERSON being guaranteed the benefit of receiving mutual respect and dignity as a universal expectancy, then peace and hormony will reign. Of course that make the law of the land FIRST to be upheld, over religious preference.
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Why do we have to put expectations on anything? That would mean putting limitations on it wouldn't it?
If God is everything and everything is God, then how can we put a limit on anything if God is limitless? Everything we see, hear, feel, taste or touch is a part of and just another facet...Is it not? "We reap what we sow" If we want nothing but the best for everyone and everything don't you believe that we can do that in a collective consciousness? I know that I believe that there are more people out there that are inherently good and want peace and harmony to reign over the bloody wars that have killed countless people due to religion and politics. A few have mentioned dignity and respect. If we have enough dignity and respect for ourselves, it shows out to the rest of the world no matter how few people we're in contact with. When those people see it they wonder why they don't have it and then begin searching for it within themselves and the cycle begins...Does it not? If someone has something that you want aren't you going to try to figure out how they got it and how you can get it? There are quite a few people that posted that I would have quoted but I still haven't mastered this forum yet in order to quote each one of you.  I'll get there sooner or later.
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I guess some questions are too difficult to answer
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Fri 05/30/08 11:53 PM
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I guess some questions are too difficult to answer
I'll have to think about this for a while to give you a good answer.
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I guess some questions are too difficult to answer
I'll have to think about this for a while to give you a good answer.
Thank you I guess it is difficult to try and answer all those things at once when you're on the other side of them 
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Why do we have to put expectations on anything? That would mean putting limitations on it wouldn't it? If God is everything and everything is God, then how can we put a limit on anything if God is limitless? Everything we see, hear, feel, taste or touch is a part of and just another facet...Is it not? "We reap what we sow" If we want nothing but the best for everyone and everything don't you believe that we can do that in a collective consciousness? I know that I believe that there are more people out there that are inherently good and want peace and harmony to reign over the bloody wars that have killed countless people due to religion and politics. A few have mentioned dignity and respect. If we have enough dignity and respect for ourselves, it shows out to the rest of the world no matter how few people we're in contact with. When those people see it they wonder why they don't have it and then begin searching for it within themselves and the cycle begins...Does it not? If someone has something that you want aren't you going to try to figure out how they got it and how you can get it? I was thinking about this a little more and the thought occurred to me that I always try to keep balance between my mind body and soul. Does anyone else do this as well? Or am I just another oddball? 
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Why do we have to put expectations on anything? That would mean putting limitations on it wouldn't it? If God is everything and everything is God, then how can we put a limit on anything if God is limitless? Everything we see, hear, feel, taste or touch is a part of and just another facet...Is it not? "We reap what we sow" If we want nothing but the best for everyone and everything don't you believe that we can do that in a collective consciousness? I know that I believe that there are more people out there that are inherently good and want peace and harmony to reign over the bloody wars that have killed countless people due to religion and politics. A few have mentioned dignity and respect. If we have enough dignity and respect for ourselves, it shows out to the rest of the world no matter how few people we're in contact with. When those people see it they wonder why they don't have it and then begin searching for it within themselves and the cycle begins...Does it not? If someone has something that you want aren't you going to try to figure out how they got it and how you can get it? I was thinking about this a little more and the thought occurred to me that I always try to keep balance between my mind body and soul. Does anyone else do this as well? Or am I just another oddball?
To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder.
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Edited by
karmafury
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To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder. Had to read this twice. Confusing on first read.
Unfortunately it seems there will always be those who chose to be destructive whether to create order or disorder. Humanity and the planet pay the sad price. |
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To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder. Had to read this twice. Confusing on first read.
Unfortunately it seems there will always be those who chose to be destructive whether to create order or disorder. Humanity and the planet pay the sad price. NONSENSE AS SALVATION
The human race will begin solving it's problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously.
If you can master nonsense as well as you have already learned to master sense, then each will expose the other for what it is: absurdity. From that moment of illumination, a man begins to be free regardless of his surroundings. He becomes free to play order games and change them at will. He becomes free to play disorder games just for the hell of it. He becomes free to play neither or both. And as the master of his own games, he plays without fear, and therefore without frustration, and therefore with good will in his soul and love in his being.
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To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder. Had to read this twice. Confusing on first read.
Unfortunately it seems there will always be those who chose to be destructive whether to create order or disorder. Humanity and the planet pay the sad price. NONSENSE AS SALVATION
The human race will begin solving it's problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously.
If you can master nonsense as well as you have already learned to master sense, then each will expose the other for what it is: absurdity. From that moment of illumination, a man begins to be free regardless of his surroundings. He becomes free to play order games and change them at will. He becomes free to play disorder games just for the hell of it. He becomes free to play neither or both. And as the master of his own games, he plays without fear, and therefore without frustration, and therefore with good will in his soul and love in his being.
I love Rule 62
To thine own self be true and free from the bondage of self
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Sun 06/01/08 04:27 AM
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To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder. Had to read this twice. Confusing on first read.
Unfortunately it seems there will always be those who chose to be destructive whether to create order or disorder. Humanity and the planet pay the sad price. NONSENSE AS SALVATION
The human race will begin solving it's problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously.
If you can master nonsense as well as you have already learned to master sense, then each will expose the other for what it is: absurdity. From that moment of illumination, a man begins to be free regardless of his surroundings. He becomes free to play order games and change them at will. He becomes free to play disorder games just for the hell of it. He becomes free to play neither or both. And as the master of his own games, he plays without fear, and therefore without frustration, and therefore with good will in his soul and love in his being.
I love Rule 62
To thine own self be true and free from the bondage of self
 Conviction causes convicts.
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To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder. Had to read this twice. Confusing on first read.
Unfortunately it seems there will always be those who chose to be destructive whether to create order or disorder. Humanity and the planet pay the sad price. Ready, willing and able...Create what you want...Take what you need and leave the rest...Don't allow your past to control your present...Yes?
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To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder. Had to read this twice. Confusing on first read.
Unfortunately it seems there will always be those who chose to be destructive whether to create order or disorder. Humanity and the planet pay the sad price. Ready, willing and able...Create what you want...Take what you need and leave the rest...Don't allow your past to control your present...Yes?
The real reality is there, but everything you KNOW about "it" is in your mind and yours to do with as you like. Conceptualization is art, and YOU ARE THE ARTIST.
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To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder. Had to read this twice. Confusing on first read.
Unfortunately it seems there will always be those who chose to be destructive whether to create order or disorder. Humanity and the planet pay the sad price. NONSENSE AS SALVATION
The human race will begin solving it's problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously.
If you can master nonsense as well as you have already learned to master sense, then each will expose the other for what it is: absurdity. From that moment of illumination, a man begins to be free regardless of his surroundings. He becomes free to play order games and change them at will. He becomes free to play disorder games just for the hell of it. He becomes free to play neither or both. And as the master of his own games, he plays without fear, and therefore without frustration, and therefore with good will in his soul and love in his being.
Woo hoo!  I like that.
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To choose order over disorder, or disorder over order, is to accept a trip composed of both the creative and the destructive. But to choose the creative over the destructive is an all-creative trip composed of both order and disorder. To accomplish this, one need only accept creative disorder along with, and equal to, creative order, and also willing to reject destructive order as an undesirable equal to destructive disorder. Had to read this twice. Confusing on first read.
Unfortunately it seems there will always be those who chose to be destructive whether to create order or disorder. Humanity and the planet pay the sad price. Ready, willing and able...Create what you want...Take what you need and leave the rest...Don't allow your past to control your present...Yes?
To allow the past to control your present is to refuse to continue to learn. Using past experience only prepares you for further lessons in life. |
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when we decide we do not want any rift between us and our fellow humans, and nature itself, and dismiss all forms of organized religion as it stands You, Sir, are a genius!!! |
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In all my research and studies over the years the only proof that I've seen is that religion seems to segregate and tear each other apart rather than bring everyone together. Most of the wars in the last 1000 years have been over religions and whose is better. My imaginary friend is better than yours ... wonder which smart arse said that ... ? People have been burned, tortured, killed and gone into hiding due to their beliefs over the years. ... and still are. |
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