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Wed 05/21/08 10:58 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 05/21/08 10:59 PM



Well, Christians are atheists too. They don't believe in Mithras or in Osiris or in Horus or in Zoroaster, Poseidon, or Zeus. The list goes on and on of gods that Christians reject--even those who were around long before Christ who made remarkably similar claims. Here, you might want to check out Horus--who lived long before Christ.

And to the point of this post Jews and Christians completely disagree on who Christ was, his relevance, and his divinity (or lack thereof.)

Interesting.

-Drew
REALITY CHECK:



laugh Christians are NOT atheistslaugh


Well, as it relates to "other gods" they are. Find me someone who believes in Poseidon today, who actually believes in that ancient god. When it comes to Poseidon, they are anti-theists. I am not saying that they are atheists regarding Christ, only that there are many gods of antiquity that they do not believe in--either in their divinity or in their existence.

-Drew
glasses Atheism is when you deny the existence of any and all divine beings.glasses Atheism is when you believe humans are the highest form of life.glasses Christians believe in a god.glasses Christians believe in the existence of higher powers than humans.glasses

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Wed 05/21/08 10:59 PM


the chosen people ,why do the Born Again Christians think they are the only ones getting thru the Pearly Gates?


Some of them are in for a surprise! laugh

As in the fire down below.
laugh yeplaugh

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Wed 05/21/08 11:02 PM




Well, Christians are atheists too. They don't believe in Mithras or in Osiris or in Horus or in Zoroaster, Poseidon, or Zeus. The list goes on and on of gods that Christians reject--even those who were around long before Christ who made remarkably similar claims. Here, you might want to check out Horus--who lived long before Christ.

And to the point of this post Jews and Christians completely disagree on who Christ was, his relevance, and his divinity (or lack thereof.)

Interesting.

-Drew
REALITY CHECK:



laugh Christians are NOT atheistslaugh


Well, as it relates to "other gods" they are. Find me someone who believes in Poseidon today, who actually believes in that ancient god. When it comes to Poseidon, they are anti-theists. I am not saying that they are atheists regarding Christ, only that there are many gods of antiquity that they do not believe in--either in their divinity or in their existence.

-Drew
glasses Atheism is when you deny the existence of any and all divine beings.glasses Atheism is when you believe humans are the highest form of life.glasses Christians believe in a god.glasses Christians believe in the existence of higher powers than humans.glasses


In a Thurmont, Maryland, cemetery

Here lies an Atheist
All dressed up
And no place to go.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 05/21/08 11:06 PM





Well, Christians are atheists too. They don't believe in Mithras or in Osiris or in Horus or in Zoroaster, Poseidon, or Zeus. The list goes on and on of gods that Christians reject--even those who were around long before Christ who made remarkably similar claims. Here, you might want to check out Horus--who lived long before Christ.

And to the point of this post Jews and Christians completely disagree on who Christ was, his relevance, and his divinity (or lack thereof.)

Interesting.

-Drew
REALITY CHECK:



laugh Christians are NOT atheistslaugh


Well, as it relates to "other gods" they are. Find me someone who believes in Poseidon today, who actually believes in that ancient god. When it comes to Poseidon, they are anti-theists. I am not saying that they are atheists regarding Christ, only that there are many gods of antiquity that they do not believe in--either in their divinity or in their existence.

-Drew
glasses Atheism is when you deny the existence of any and all divine beings.glasses Atheism is when you believe humans are the highest form of life.glasses Christians believe in a god.glasses Christians believe in the existence of higher powers than humans.glasses


In a Thurmont, Maryland, cemetery

Here lies an Atheist
All dressed up
And no place to go.
huh o.k.laugh

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Wed 05/21/08 11:48 PM
It is said to the Jew 1st and then to the greek. Yahshua camming as a Jew to his people who rejected them. I believe this is why they are called the chosen people. The Messiah being of thier tribe. But it has always been you could become one as the land (adopted) whether OT or NT. Yahweh looks at the person not what tribe you are from...Miles

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Thu 05/22/08 06:43 AM

Well, Christians are atheists too.


No, they aren't. Atheist means "godless", since Christians believe in God, they are not "godless". Only someone who denies the existance of any god is an atheist.

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Thu 05/22/08 06:49 AM

the chosen people ,why do the Born Again Christians think they are the only ones getting thru the Pearly Gates?



Well, first off, I think your idea of "chosen people" is probably wrong. But ignoring that, anyone who says "You have to belong to X religion to go to heaven" is wrong.

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Thu 05/22/08 06:51 AM

the chosen people ,why do the Born Again Christians think they are the only ones getting thru the Pearly Gates?


the jews are the chosen ones because God forseen that some of the christians would forsake him as god and begin to worship Jesus as god....god said do not worship any other god but him...

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Thu 05/22/08 08:28 AM
Actually, the Jews are the chosen people of God. But because of His unfailing love, grace and mercy, even us gentiles can be grafted into the tree and become attached to the vine.

Romans 11:17-18
But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18 But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.


And.....when we are attached to the vine, and become circumsized in the heart, or born-again, given a brand new spirit, then we in fact become Jews, the chosen people of God.

Romans 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

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Thu 05/22/08 10:10 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 05/22/08 10:19 AM
So is Jewish a race or a religion?


It's all about the bloodlines. There is a certain gene that is only carried by women. This is why you are not considered Jewish (by blood) unless you have a "Jewish" mother. But most who call themselves "Jews" are not semitic Jews.

The religion is actually secondary and the Zionist Jews of today's Israel are not semitic Jews and some claim that they are not true descendants of Abraham. Many of them are atheist. They are descendants of a waring race who converted to Judaism years ago and claimed to be Jews for political reasons. This race seeks the destruction of real semitic Jews, who are a darker skinned race. There are those who claim to be Jews but are not. (The Bible calls them the "synagogue of Satan." )

The above is just an opinion or theory held by some people. But I do know that bloodlines and genes play a major roll in the Jewish picture for some reason. It is a mystery I wish someone would investigate.

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Thu 05/22/08 10:21 AM

the chosen people ,why do the Born Again Christians think they are the only ones getting thru the Pearly Gates?




Because not all Isreal is Isreal. I believe Jew's will be in heaven but it will be those who, before Christ, with a pure heart, looked foward to the redemption in Christ. And After his death and resurection look at Him for their redemption. Jesus is the only way!

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Thu 05/22/08 11:06 AM

And.....when we are attached to the vine, and become circumsized in the heart, or born-again, given a brand new spirit, then we in fact become Jews, the chosen people of God.


wheather a guy is jewish gentile or an alien you can rest assure that they will not agree that circumcision of the heart is anything like circumcision of the family jewells ...also circumcision does not magically turn a gentile into an Israelite or one of the chosen ones ..that's probably why Jesus was more than likely Jewish

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