http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ&feature=related

all that video shows is that intelligent people can be delusional ..I mean how can you convince someone that's delusional that they're delusional especially if they are supposedly intelligent ...don't they suppose to know that they're delusional ...can't they figure that out ..well apparently not ..why? ...BECAUSE THEY'RE DELUSIONAL

take Einstein for instant ..Einstein was supposedly a genius that believed in God but yet present the equation to the military that could destroy the world but yet claimed that he was a pacifist ...now isn't that delusional ...

people believe they have the right to believe what they want to believe and that statement is how you can tell that someone is delusional ..if everyone lived on their own planet each in it's own separate dimension then maybe you can believe what you want but since everyone is stuck together on this planet what you believe will in some form shape of fashion effect others

so if you have a belief and can't rationalize it and claim it was truth or make a claim of faith because you can't rationalize the belief as truth...then you are delusional

1. Why won't God heal amputees?
God wishes us to believe through faith. Any miracle which is not plausibly deniable would remove the need for faith.

2. Why are there so many starving people in our world?
Because we let them starve. God commanded us to feed the hungry, starvation exists because humanity doesn't follow God's commands.

3. Why does God ask for the deaths of innocent people...
Shotgun argumentation, so I will not answer. Questions should be specific.

4. Why does the Bible have anti-science nonsense?
Shotgun argumentation, so I will not answer. Questions should be specific.

5. Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the Bible?
Examples?

6. Why do bad things happen to good people?
There are no good people, everyone has fallen short of God's measure of good. But specifically, God loves all people, so God blesses all people. God also allows bad things to happen to all people. This is allowed to test our faith, make us stronger and generally make us better people.

7. Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the Bible leave behind evidence?
See the answer for question 1.

8. How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?
See the answer for question 1.

9. Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood.
He doesn't it was a metaphor. To the Hebrews, blood symbolized life and flesh symbolized the makeup of someone. Jesus was saying that unless you accept me, you will not have life. The word Jesus used was "zoe", which means "of the absolute fulness of life". When Jesus gave his disciples wine, he said "this is my blood". Wine symbolized happiness and freedom. When Jesus gave his disciples bread, he said "this is my flesh". To the Hebrews, bread symbolized salvation.

10. Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?
The statistics are faulty, because it lumps all Christian denominations together. Several segments of the Christian population are much less likely to get a divorce: evangelicals and Catholics are two examples. Divorce rates are also effected by race and education. But in the end, all Christians are people. Why does the video assume that God should take the effort out of marriage for Christians?


Overall, the video was condescending and asked questions which almost any Christian can answer easily.

Maddy can be so awe inspiring.

Madisonman,

I watched your video, why don't you watch this one and see what you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIk63rztUhg

I am not a Christian but I will respond to these questions for fun.


1. Why won't God heal amputees?

The future design of the human body will be able to regrow a severed part. The celestial designers (Gods creative engineers) of DNA simply have not accomplished that yet.

2. Why are there so many starving people in our world?

Because they do not know how to create their reality and they believe in hunger, see hunger, think hunger and poverty, and have little faith in themselves ~and because there are others who perpetuate the problem and don't know how to solve the problem and there are those who cause hunger and believe in genocide of so-called "inferior" races.

3. Why does God ask for the deaths of innocent people...

A: This question assumes that God asks for the deaths of innocent people. This is not a proven premise and is not specific. All deaths are pre-determined anyway, by the person's higher self.

4. Why does the Bible have anti-science nonsense?

A:This question is not specific enough.


5. Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the Bible?

A: This question assumes God is a proponent of slavery in the Bible, and it assumes the God of the Bible is God. This is not a proven premise.

6. Why do bad things happen to good people?

A:Good and bad things are a matter of opinion. Good and bad people are a matter of opinion. All things happen by reason of the law of cause and effect.

7. Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the Bible leave behind evidence?

A: Even evidence for miracles that happen today are hard to find. This is just a stupid argumentative assumptive question.

8. How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?

A:Because he is dead? Because I don't believe in him? Because I can't see ghosts? You pick one.

9. Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood.
A: This assumes he did.

10. Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?

A: Because marriage sucks.

Spider wrote:
Overall, the video was condescending and asked questions which almost any Christian can answer easily.

I agree with Spider. The questions were condescending, assumptive, and just plain stupid.

but here's no. 11 on that list ..if those that believe in god or claimed to have heard or seen god are not delusional....then why can't anyone ever describe god without sounding delusional

true.

Being born again into the things of God through Christ with the sharing of the mind of Christ is the invisible miracle of this life.

It is precisely the individual that finds that to be fact and not fiction.

It's one thing that is certainly original and genuine but not found of each man to be that of one's own making.

and that, can be a delusion to all of those that do not partake of it; But is not a delusion to those that sincerely seek it out.

A delusion is based in reality and is plausible.... a psychotic thought is one that is implausible and has no factual basis in reality.

FYI.

Whether a person "sounds delusional" or not is a judgment and personal perception (opinion) of the person who is listening.

If a vision is not shared by a majority of people for an extended duration, then it is usually labeled "delusion."

A shared vision or perception that has an extended duration and stays in tack, allowing for scientific study,testing and analysis, is eventually declared to be "real."

JB

ok.."wouldee" if you share the mind of christ then reveal a rational thought of christ that no one ever said ..if you can't then you are in the forum making outragous claims and may have to consider that you may be a tad delusional

well then let's test that theory/belief ...simple describe god beyond a concept without sounding delusional ...

If you folks could learn the definitions of delusions and psychotic thoughts then you can converse...

As I have stated above, how I sound to you, is your decision.

You cannot see me, but I exist.

I can probably prove I exist if you wish.

Lets assume I exist and it has been proven.

Here is my description of God.

I am God.

I am god simply because I know that I exist and I cannot be sure if anything else actually exists. Perhaps it is all a delusion, I don't know.

But I do know that I exist.

not really ..think of you describing god as a math problem...for example you made a claim that 2+2=4 .. ..you either have faith it is 4 or you can explain rationally without sounding delusional how it is 4 ...just describe god in the same manner




if you are god but can't even be sure that anything else actually exists beyond a delusion doesn't describes god but just suggest that god is delusional

I am following Noah Webster's definition of delusion which follows that illusion and lucidity are also relevant in discerning the use of the word.

i.e. deception ; a misleading of the mind. and 2) FALSE REPRESENTATION ; ERROR OR MISTAKE PROCEEDING FROM FALSE VIEWS.

FYI.

peace

funches.

One of the things that is incumbent upon Christianity is the preservation of the revelation of God's offer to receive the Holy Spirit, through Christ.

To do otherwise here is disengenuous. There is a prerequisite which is each man's choice to determine for oneself.

God has already determined how the invisible miracle is revealed to the individual.

Make you own judgement about whether it is necessary to be apprehended of or not.

I testify of the truth that is available to all, not vaingloriously bandy it about.

It comes from God on God's terms, not mine, and certainly not yours.

Nothing new there.

...er.."wouldee".. that is the point the video was trying to get around that intelligent people have the delusion that there are imaginary beings around them..you keep bringing up that there are invisible holy spirits and the occurence of invisible miracles which the medical term for this is called "paraniod delusions" ...now explain how you know the holy spirit is there are that invisble miracles are occuring without sounding delusional ...

You people are not at all using the word delusion right. Find a new word or quit the discussion. You have no idea how ridiculous you sound.

oh oh ..once someone comes into a debate asking people to define words or that they don't know the meanings of words that are clearly obvious it's a sign of fear ...

so "wouldee" since you are relying on webster to give you definitions then do webster defines god beyond being more than a concept