What do they say? I say that without the old testament law and prophets thier is know way you can understand the spirit of the law. Do you agree? If not show proof I am wrong..Blessings...Miles

Also I have found that the ones who on here challenge the scriptures actually know the scriptures better than most. Most have said they were deep into learning and found how hipocritical the churches and thier own teachings and interpretation are not biblical. Thier is a saying Yahshua said but it is not meant as you may believe. But point straight at these as being outcasts because of this.

Matt 18:6-7

"Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck , and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!
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This is not speaking of children as new converts are said to be on milk... Just think about that..Blessings...Miles

Isa 28:9-15

9 "Whom will he teach knowledge?
And whom will he make to understand the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just drawn from the breasts?
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little."

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue
He will speak to this people,
12 To whom He said, "This is the rest with which
You may cause the weary to rest,"
And, "This is the refreshing";
Yet they would not hear.
13 But the word of Yahweh was to them,
"Precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little,"
That they might go and fall backward, and be broken
And snared and caught.

14 Therefore hear the word of Yahweh, you scornful men,
Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem,
15 Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death,
And with Sheol we are in agreement.
When the overflowing scourge passes through,
It will not come to us,
For we have made lies our refuge,
And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves."
NKJV




11 For with stammering lips and another tongue
He will speak to this people,
12 To whom He said, "This is the rest with which
You may cause the weary to rest,"
And, "This is the refreshing";
Yet they would not hear.


This is a exact prophecy of a fast growing religion who has taken the word of Yahweh and made a specticle of it.

So what have they really done?

Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death,
And with Sheol we are in agreement.
When the overflowing scourge passes through,
It will not come to us,
For we have made lies our refuge,
And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves


If you see yourself in this run. Yahweh's fury will come down on these who mock the Holy Spirit.. Shalom...Miles

I believe they say anything you want them to say, since they are subject to interpretation....

well, you might understand that love was and is the spirit of the law without the OT and the Prophets, however, the NT makes a heck of a lot more sense if you read the OT to gain the context of the whole thing. Also, the OT Psalms add so much to the Bible that it just wouldn't be a Bible without 'em! I get a heck of a lot of inspiration from the Psalms. Also've been reading Solomon's dedication prayer at the temple lately. That is one heck of a prayer!

Interpretation is when you chose not to do as Yahweh says. He promices that he will reveal all the prophecies to his people before Yahshua's return. The prophecy that I just showed you is a major one that the worlds religions dismiss. Because they would have to admitt demon possession. For they have made a covenant with Death. Worship of Yahweh is always falling foward. The refreshing they term as the Holy Spirit but this is not the spirit that possesses them. This prophecy was given for our day as this phenonom has only been around for 100 years. Yet is very large today and keeps people believing through these decieving spirits that possesses them..Blessings...Miles

I am glad you see the value thier Yashafox. Yahshua said he did nothing except it was told him from the father. That was the spirit of the OT. The Apostles and the disciples did not have a NT anytime in thier lives. So to say they were speaking of anything but the spirit of the OT is simply not true.Shalom..Miles

Do the scriptures tell us to within days when we are changed in a twinkling of an eye? Miles

Everything is subject to interpretation.

Not once has the Holy Spirit been mentioned.

Jesus said the Holy Spirit will lead into all truth, and other things as well.

The Holy Spirit is the spirit of the law.

Why is the glory to God being sequestered from praising God for his love which is bestowed upon us Christians?

Praise the Lord.

Shout out your praises to God in the Spirit.

Worship in Spirit and Truth.

all the rest is the filthy rags of our own righteousness.

It is God's righteousness that we worship in Spirit and in truth.

The Lord is our righteousness.

Somebody is forgetting these verses, not to mention their representation of the Living Word that dwells with the heart of the Christian.

Praise God. not man

Let man rejoice.

Glory to God.

Praise the Lord.

Shout out your praises to God in the Spirit.

Worship in Spirit and Truth.

all the rest is the filthy rags of our own righteousness.

It is God's righteousness that we worship in Spirit and in truth.

The Lord is our righteousness.

In response to the OP -

I believe in the Word of the Lord.

I have no need to prove that to man.

The Lord knows the heart.

He knows me.

What you find is that if your will is not towards the words written to us then the spirit will never enter. Yahshua was our example he warned of the pharasees and the things to come. That same spirit must be on the Temple made without hands or it will leave or never came in the 1st place. I am warning you through the spirit of demonic influences prophecied by the Prophet Isaiah. They claim the spirit in mans way not Yahweh's. They put heavy burdens on thier people. Ones they do not understand. They are legions and twist thier ministers of light into spreading an Evangel that has not been known before. To keep the flock under thier control or lose the spirit. Which they would do good to sweep the floor and turn and Satan will flee. To speak of love is to speak of preparing as the warning is going out. No one falls backwards in Yahweh's healing. This is satans deception to turn you away from what is real and true.Anyone in the scriptures who has been shown mercy whether in healings or forgiveness of sins falls foward in all humbleness to our great king..Blessings...Miles

amen

And the people said AMEN


But quick question....does not the NT also reiterate the OT laws all over the place....And especially through Jesus teachings.....He does not ever say that you should not live by the OT laws.

example: Romans 3:21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets.

Romans 4:31 Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.

All the Apostles and disciples had was the OT. new converts were told to stay away from 4 things because Moses was taught every sabbath in every city. So in Acts they were telling them to go learn the law. Blessings..Miles

If you will even look at what Isaiah said about a covenent of death. This new out cry refers to the people as being slain. The spirit gives life. To be slain is to be that covenent of death..Blessings...Miles

I think the OT is all through the NT