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Topic: What the Bible Says is So
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Thu 05/01/08 10:13 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 05/01/08 10:27 PM



.............What the Bible Says Is So.......................


```````by Pastor Roy Thompson``````````



“For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.”—Ps. 119:89.

“For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”—Matt. 5:18.

“But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”—I Pet. 1:25.

Dr. Bob Jones, Sr., who was one of a vanishing breed of preachers, had a well-known phrase, “What the Bible says is so.” It’s a plain saying, but it packs a lot of power. It seems today that attacks on the Word of God are coming from every direction. Even within our own ranks (fundamentalism), there are tremendous debates on the Word of God. I have never been ashamed to be called a fundamentalist, but the term has been misused and attributed to some groups to which I wish it were not attributed. The term has a great meaning historically, though, so I don’t shy away from it.

Within the fundamentalist community today, however, there is great misunderstanding on exactly what is our viewpoint of the Bible. Thirty years ago it was enough to say, “I believe in the verbal, plenary inspiration of the Scriptures in the original language.” Nobody had a problem with that. Today, though, that’s not enough to say. I believe that a sound, sensible position is that we have had a Bible in the English language for well over three hundred years. God gave us this Bible. I have complete confidence that the King James Version is the Word of God in our mother tongue, so I don’t need any other translations. We do not need to argue and debate this issue constantly. Too many Bible college students today are spending all their time learning about the Bible. It’s fine to know some facts about the Bible, but it’s much more important to know the Bible. We need to get back to studying, memorizing and preaching the Word of God.

I want to take that short clause, “What the Bible says is so” and use it as the theme of this message.

1. What the Bible says is so, in spite of the fact that it is denied by infidels.

Dr. B. R. Lakin tabbed them “in-fer-hells.”). Many infidels are brilliant as far as intelligence and accumulation of facts are concerned. But these people do not believe that God gave us a Bible in any respect—not in the original languages, not in the English language, not at all. These infidels are constantly attacking the Word of God. (They launched a crusade recently to remove from all public school textbooks any reference to God or the Bible or Christianity.) Their denial of the Word of God, though, does not dilute its power. Imagine a man is facing you with a loaded 38-caliber revolver. As he cocks the hammer, you mock him and say, “That gun doesn’t have any power. That gun can’t hurt me.” You’d be a fool to talk like that. You’d be no more of a fool, though, than the man who denies the power of the Word of God.

What the Bible says is so—in spite of the denial of the infidels.



2. What the Bible says is so, in spite of the fact that it is doubted by skeptics.

Skeptics are a bit different than infidels. The skeptic says, “I just don’t know.” He puts a question mark on everything. The question mark of the skeptic is often more successful than the outright denial of the infidel in getting people away from God. The approach is more subtle. When the Devil first approached Eve, he didn’t outright deny what God had said but put a question mark on it: “Hath God said…?” He wanted Eve to ask herself the question, “Is that what God meant?” When the Bible is clear on something, don’t search for a “deep” meaning. I know there are some difficult passages in the Bible (prophetic statements, for instance); but when something is clearly understandable, take it at face value. Don’t put a question mark on it. If you question everything you read in the Bible, it will have no effect on your life. It will hold no persuasive power over your decisions.

Today’s skeptics say, “The Bible was written in an unscientific age. It certainly has some good moral teachings, but as far as having any value as a book of science or psychology, it’s very outdated.” They want you to ask yourself, “Is it really for today? Is it really for me?” But what the Bible says is so—in spite of the doubts of the skeptics.



3. What the Bible says is so, in spite of the fact that it is perverted by false teachers. This is another area where the Devil creeps in.

Home Bible studies enjoy great popularity today, and I’m not one of those preachers who get upset about them. I’d rather somebody have a Bible study than a poker game. But please be careful not to allow anybody to teach something false at your Bible study. If you’re going to get into something “deep,” first consult with the pastor or a mature Christian. In other words, don’t try to do calculus if you haven’t had simple algebra. If you’re going to have a Bible study, don’t use twenty-five reference books and concordances. Open your Bible and pray, “Holy Spirit, teach us. Don’t let us misunderstand something.” Don’t make your Bible study a book study or a study of someone’s cassette tape ministry.

If you’re saved, you ought to know false teaching when you hear it. An unsaved man can easily be duped and deceived, but a Christian should have more discernment. If you believe that your church is a Bible-believing church, be leery of anyone who teaches something contrary to what your church teaches. I’m certainly not claiming that our church is infallible, but I believe that this is a sensible guideline. All kinds of people are quoting the Bible today. Cults are on the rise as never before. There are as many new cults as there are Bibles. (It’s interesting to note that they have risen together.) The Jehovah’s Witnesses used the King James Version for years, but they tired of being “ torn apart” with their own Bible. So now they have their own version, the New World translation. And their scholars were very careful to change that passage in John 1 that was so devastating to them. Instead of “and the Word was God,” their version reads, “…and the Word was a god.” They now have their own religion, their own Bible, their own Christ. Their Christ is almost God, but not quite. He is a god, he is even a mighty god, but he is not Almighty God.

Let me stress, however, that you can also pervert the Word of God while quoting the King James Version. The Christian Scientists are a most perverted sect, but their reading rooms always have a KJV Bible. When Satan came to Jesus and quoted the Bible, he quoted the right translation. And how did Jesus answer him? He quoted the Word of God right back to him. The only authoritative way to answer a perversion of the Scriptures is with the Scriptures. We are to handle the Word properly. So many folks say, “I like this verse—because it suits my case.” They have a convenient theology. Some of the most effective, most dangerous false teaching is that which contains a margin of truth but enough error to water it down and deceive.

Take a doctrine called Calvinism, for instance. The term comes from a man’s name, John Calvin, an outstanding Reformer and Bible teacher. Though I believe he has been sorely misrepresented, from his teachings comes a doctrine referred to as hyper-Calvinism. Some of the truths he taught have been taken to the extreme. A hyper-Calvinist will come to a particular portion of the Scripture and say, “I know that says ‘all’ there, but it really doesn’t mean ‘all.’ ” If God said it, He meant it, because what the Bible says is so—in spite of the perversions by false teachers.



4. What the Bible says is so, in spite of the fact that it is defiled by modernists.

If we go back a number of years, we will find that the main Protestant denominations and the Baptists basically believe d the same thing about the Word of God. Though there were differences on baptism and church polity, these denominations could work together to conduct citywide revival meetings because they believed that man was sinful, that salvation came by grace and that the Bible was God’s inspired Word. When one twerp would dare voice any kind of a modernistic viewpoint, he was cast out. But he gradually wormed his way in— through the seminary. It all begins in the seminary. Young people go there to get their training, and they sit under the teaching of “book professors,” men who have never had any contact with the real world. They have confined themselves within these monasteries of the Protestant and Baptist faiths. They don’t go soul winning; they don’t know what it is to build a church; they don’t know how to weep over the dying; they have never counseled a broken heart. All they know is what they have read in a book. When one of these respected, personable, popular professors comes up with a new idea and starts teaching something way out in “left field,” nobody challenges him because he’s such a nice guy. Then a new teacher joins the staff, and this nice guy gets hold of him and influences his thinking. Now two of them are teaching this offbeat material.

It takes only a generation or two for the entire seminary to go bad. Then every graduate of that school comes into the church with those perverted ideas. Soon the whole church is destroyed. We’ve seen great churches fall that way. And we’re not so strong that it couldn’t happen to us someday if we don’t stay straight in line with the Word of God. I know what the Cleveland Baptist Church was built upon. I’ve been here since Day One. It was built by the prayers, tears, hard work and sacrificial giving of God’s people. Nobody on the outside ever gave us a break. It makes my blood boil to think that fifty years from now some heretic might stand up here and deny the virgin birth of Jesus Christ. If that ever happens, I pray that God will resurrect me long enough to come back and kick that guy off the platform out into the sixth row—because what the Bible says is so, no matter how many modernists defile it.

Yes, what the Bible says is so.

What the Bible says about Heaven is so. At fifty years of age, I’m right at the point where I’m beginning to think about Heaven quite a bit. I’ve already tired of burying my church members and friends in the ministry. I get excited thinking about Heaven! I pity people who think that Heaven will be boring. We’re going to be active there! We’re going to reign with Jesus for a thousand years. There will be a kingdom on this earth like there’s never been before. Redeemed saints of God will rule over this earth. As I understand it, the heavenly Jerusalem will hover over the earth, and the redeemed will have access to both places. Look at what man has built in this country in two hundred years. Then think of God Almighty working on His heavenly city for two thousand years. As far as I know, He’s still putting on the finishing touches. Paul, who was privileged with a “sneak peek” into Heaven, said its beauty is indescribable.

Yes, what the Bible says about Heaven is so. It’s supreme beauty and bliss. And it’s the place where God’s people go when they die.

On the other hand, what the Bible says about Hell is so. If Heaven is real, then Hell is real. If Heaven is literal, then Hell is literal. If Heaven’s streets are paved with pure gold, then Hell’s streets are paved with coals of fire. Hell is just as awful as Heaven is wonderful. What the Bible says about Hell is so.

What the Bible says about man is so. All men are sinners and need to be saved. Your precious family, your dearest friends, the greatest humanitarian who ever lived—all are sinners.

What the Bible says about salvation is so. God’s salvation is free and for everybody. Here I want to examine two parables which Jesus told.

Jesus told a story about a king who instructed his servants to go out and invite some particular people to a feast he was hosting. The three men who were invited each offered an excuse. One said that he had bought some oxen and had to prove them. That’s about as smart as buying a car without knowing whether there’s an engine under the hood. Another said that he had to look at some land he had bought. That was certainly foolish. Another said that he had a wife and therefore couldn’t come. (I once heard a sermon on this parable appropriately entitled “ Two Idiots and a Henpecked Husband.”) When the servants returned and told their master what had happened, he was angry and instructed them to go out into the highways and hedges and to talk to the lame, halt, poor and blind. They were to extend an invitation to every person they met. The servants did as they were commanded. When they came back, they said, “Lord, we have done as you have bidden, and yet there is room.” That parable has to mean this: From the day that Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden, God provided salvation through a sacrifice. To this day, “though millions have come, there’s still room for one; yes, there’s room at the cross for you.” Calvary is never crowded.

Jesus told another parable about ten virgins. Five were wise; five were foolish. They were waiting for the bridegroom to come. Five went out to buy oil. While they were gone, the bridegroom came, the door was closed, and they were left outside. They knocked and begged to be admitted, but the answer came, “Sorry, it’s too late. You should have been prepared.” I’ve heard many interpretations of that parable, but it teaches one thing for sure: You don’t have all the time in the world. You don’t know when you’re going to die or when the Lord is coming back. You can lose two ways. God only gives you today. What the Bible says is so. Without Christ, one is lost and on the road to Hell. There’s plenty of room at the cross, but only a limited amount of time to approach it.




Do you know for sure that if you died today, you would go to Heaven? You can know!

See Romans 10:9

No fancy words required....don't have to be in a church........no....all you have to do is just ask Jesus into your heart ....right where you are...and mean it.
Nothingh more.

Don't have to go get cleaned up first...no...or change your ways first..no......
all you have to do is just come to Jesus..just as you are.
He will do the rest.
Simple.

That's all you need to do ... to recieve that free gift of grace.
Just ask , believe..recieve.....Amendrinker

Ready to ask Him in?

Ask Jesus into your heart right now..... your life will Never be the same again.....drinker :heart:

:heart::heart::heart:


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Thu 05/01/08 10:14 PM
I thought what TV said was so...if its on TV, it has to be real doesnt it?

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Thu 05/01/08 10:17 PM
<---- backs out slowly...

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Thu 05/01/08 10:17 PM
follows her out too.....

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Thu 05/01/08 10:18 PM

follows her out too.....
devil laugh

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Thu 05/01/08 10:19 PM
Edited by Monier on Thu 05/01/08 10:20 PM
I am so happy that in the US, we are free to interpret religious material how we choose, and learn our own life lessons from it's words.


....or are we free to do so?

who among us inspires us to find answers for ourselves?

It is certainally not a level playing field. Faith untested is not very strong faith indeed.

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Thu 05/01/08 10:20 PM

I am so happy that in the US, we are free to interpret religious material how we choose, and learn our own life lessons from it's words.


....or are we free to do so?

who among us inspires us to find answers for ourselves?

It is certainally not a level playing field. Faith untested is not very strong faith indeed.
very well said ( I only came back in here to say that, lol now I'm leaving)laugh

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Thu 05/01/08 10:32 PM
flowerforyou provocativeflowerforyou

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Fri 05/02/08 07:49 AM

11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.


Since the "Bible says it is so" I imagine you pray with your head covered or you have a bald head. Which one is it may I ask?

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Fri 05/02/08 08:00 AM
There are many dead beat Dads out there that I think are the lowest of the low. However God sees it differently and we know the "Bible says it is so". God says that men can just up and leave your wife and kids and as long as you have the God of Abraham and Jesus in your heart you are heaven bound (some of his followers did this very thing by the way) I wonder why woman don't get to do that? OH YEAH. The kids would die of starvation. Well good luck ladies. God say your men are to be greatly rewarded.

I say they are scum sucking bums. Any man that leaves his kid behind is a punk. I will take on the wrath of God to stand by my point.

18:29 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake,

18:30 Who shall not receive manifold more in this in present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.

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Fri 05/02/08 08:51 AM
How to interpret anything you read.

Read the words.
Know the defintions.
Know the context.

You have failed to do any of those Rabbit.

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Fri 05/02/08 09:38 AM

How to interpret anything you read.

Read the words.
Know the defintions.
Know the context.

You have failed to do any of those Rabbit.



Actually I agree with you. The key word is "interpret". The book is open to interpretation. Not just the cold dead words. The article is trying to say that the King James in English is the word of God.

I think that is open for interpretation.

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Fri 05/02/08 10:01 AM


How to interpret anything you read.

Read the words.
Know the defintions.
Know the context.

You have failed to do any of those Rabbit.



Actually I agree with you. The key word is "interpret". The book is open to interpretation. Not just the cold dead words. The article is trying to say that the King James in English is the word of God.

I think that is open for interpretation.


All communication is up for interpretation. That doesn't mean every interpretation is valid, does it? Let's try to be honest and reasonable and not make specious arguments, okay?

If the KJV is an accurate translation of the Word of God, then there is no problem. Most scholars agree that the KJV is a very good translation. I see no merit in an obviously hostile layman's disagreements with the translation.

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Fri 05/02/08 10:05 AM



How to interpret anything you read.

Read the words.
Know the defintions.
Know the context.

You have failed to do any of those Rabbit.



Actually I agree with you. The key word is "interpret". The book is open to interpretation. Not just the cold dead words. The article is trying to say that the King James in English is the word of God.

I think that is open for interpretation.


All communication is up for interpretation. That doesn't mean every interpretation is valid, does it? Let's try to be honest and reasonable and not make specious arguments, okay?

If the KJV is an accurate translation of the Word of God, then there is no problem. Most scholars agree that the KJV is a very good translation. I see no merit in an obviously hostile layman's disagreements with the translation.


The fact that even you are not going so far as to defend the original article makes me think that you also do not buy into its arguments.
If you are reading the Bible you need to know something about it. The words in english are not enough.

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Fri 05/02/08 10:07 AM

.............What the Bible Says Is So.......................


```````by Pastor Roy Thompson``````````


the Bible is just like "the rules of the road book" you read to get a driver's license ...there are rules and laws in both books that you are suppose to follow ...but you know from the beginning that you won't


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Fri 05/02/08 11:31 AM
Women who truly believe in the Bible would not speak publicly on religious issues because the Bible forbids this. And that would include posting to a public Internet.

Obviously they don’t believe in the very doctrine they are claiming to support. ohwell

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Fri 05/02/08 12:31 PM

Women who truly believe in the Bible would not speak publicly on religious issues because the Bible forbids this. And that would include posting to a public Internet.

Obviously they don’t believe in the very doctrine they are claiming to support. ohwell



Once again you prove you don't understand the Bible.

One verse, directed one at church at one time said that women couldn't teach. But the fact that 40% of the ministry of the man who wrote that verse (Paul the Apostle) was FEMALE and the fact that he wrote many times about the right of women to teach, shows that the one verse to the contrary was meant to address a specific issue.

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Fri 05/02/08 12:41 PM
Singing and dancing through with my freedom for all to seebigsmile flowerforyou

Everything is up to interpretation. And where is Creative and his understandings of perceptions that make us see everything differently due to the life we had before we were exposed to the knowledge or information??

Rigidity does not make it right or correct. Unopenness does not make it moral.

My two cents for nowbigsmile

Dancing out with my freedom still intactbigsmile :wink: laugh

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Fri 05/02/08 01:17 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Fri 05/02/08 01:18 PM
Wabbit Wabbit Wabbit

The bible does not say a man can leave his family to whatever. The scriptures say "a man who does not take care of his family is worse than an imbosol" so all those dead beat dads to Yahweh are pretty much the scum of the earth to him... Wabbit wanna nother Carrott..Blessings...Miles

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Fri 05/02/08 01:47 PM


Luke 20:28-33
Teacher, Moses wrote to us that if a man's brother dies, having a wife, and he dies without children, his brother should take his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. 29 Now there were seven brothers. And the first took a wife, and died without children. 30 And the second took her as wife, and he died childless. 31 Then the third took her, and in like manner the seven also; and they left no children, and died. 32 Last of all the woman died also. 33 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife does she become? For all seven had her as wife."
NKJV


Here shows how a family takes care of each other. Caring about the family line of his brother. It may seem as maybe the wife does not want this. But there is no place where a widow refuses her husbands brother to give him off spring in his name.



Eph 5:25-6:1
5 Husbands, love your wives, just as Messiah also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Yahweh does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife , and the two shall become one flesh." 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Messiah and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.


NKJV


Again the family is to be one unit and the other is not to leave. The problem is not with the scriptures. THE PROBLEMS IS OUR IMMORRAL SOCIETY WHO BELIEVES THEY KNOW WHAT IS BEST.


Again an explanation of what is proper in a marriage and to Yahweh.


1 Cor 7:32-35

32 But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Master— how he may please Yahweh. 33 But he who is married cares about the things of the world — how he may please his wife . 34 There is a difference between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares about the things of Yahweh, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she who is married cares about the things of the world — how she may please her husband. 35 And this I say for your own profit, not that I may put a leash on you, but for what is proper, and that you may serve the Lord without distraction.
NKJV


Again how to manage a family. All are to be taken care of.



1 Tim 5:1-8
:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.

3 Honour widows that are widows indeed.

4 But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.

5 Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.

6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.

7 And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless.

8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel .
KJV

The last sentence here I believe speaks directly to anyone who does not take care of his or her family.


Lastly what is Pure religion.. And also what has happened today that is destroying our families because everyone knows whats best…


James 1:20-27

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of Elohim.

21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

27 Pure religion and undefiled before Yahweh the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
KJV




May Yahweh Put His Will and Words In the Minds of His Children...Blessings..Miles



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