Topic: Why the cross?
Abracadabra's photo
Sun 05/04/08 10:34 AM

The Fairy Land Fighters


They are the white-lighters,
The Dudly-do-righters.
Like fairies they flutter
Admiring each other.

When the rain falls
On the fairy parade
Washing the dust off
The silly charade.,
There they are
With tooth and claw
Spewing sweet poison
And fairy law.

But they will smile
And blow you a kiss
And act as if
There is nothing amiss
All the while dancing
In poison light
On the border of hell
At the edge of night.

They always do
what they think they must
High on themselves
And fairy dust.

They are the white-lighters
The fairly land fighters.

JB


That's really cool. glasses

Did you just write that?

You should post that in the poem forum if you haven't already, it's really good. flowerforyou

wouldee's photo
Sun 05/04/08 10:34 AM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 05/04/08 10:57 AM

Answering your own diatribe is apparently too difficult to justify and deflecting your accountability for your your own premise in any post is warranted as being for invisible fans?


Abra's fans are not invisible.
He does not engage in personal attacks on people like you do.

Too many people confuse themselves with what they believe, and this is why they are feeling insulted. This is because they don't know who they truly are and cannot distinguish themselves from what they believe.

JB





Thank you for defining me as insulted.

I hadn't known it but by your revelation.laugh

Apparently, you also have unique and very independent concepts, including what constitutes a personal attack.

I have just realized that anything uncomfortably hypocritical is best viewed as a personal attack.

Amusing humor, Jeanniebean.:wink:

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

wouldee's photo
Sun 05/04/08 10:36 AM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 05/04/08 10:43 AM

Answering your own diatribe is apparently too difficult to justify and deflecting your accountability for your your own premise in any post is warranted as being for invisible fans?


Well they aren’t very invisible when I open their emails. bigsmile

As to the rest of your post, it just appears to be nothing more than personal insults directed at my character. I’m really not interested in reading such dribble much less responding to it. Perhaps someone else may find it entertaining. flowerforyou





well, it just goes to show me that you aren't sincere in thinking through your own remarks.

Enjoy your e-mails.


flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 05/04/08 10:42 AM

well, it just goes to show me that you aren't sincere in your own remarks.


I'm not sincere because I won't engage in a personal mud-slinging contest with you? huh

I have no interest in doing that Wouldee.

No thank you.

wouldee's photo
Sun 05/04/08 10:54 AM


well, it just goes to show me that you aren't sincere in your own remarks.


I'm not sincere because I won't engage in a personal mud-slinging contest with you? huh

I have no interest in doing that Wouldee.

No thank you.



oops, my grammatical edit was too late, but your answer is still to the point, though.

Mudslinging to you is but a disengenuous metaphor for disguising and camoflauging your diatribe and rhetoric when called upon to give account of.


Circular and endless are your machinations, Abra.

Pleading ignorance is more of the same.

Govern yourself better and make sound comments and you won't experience such discomfort.

After all, if you say nothing, nothing will be contended with.

Certainly you see the wisdom of speaking a few clear words intelligently verses the much speaking reitierations that are only circular and argumentative.

Hypocrisy abounds , my friend.

You are capable of better.


And yet, you remain evasive and pretensiously feign innocence.


Mudslinging, indeed!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh



flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile






no photo
Sun 05/04/08 10:55 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/04/08 11:01 AM



Thank you for defining me as insulted.


Actually I was referring to the people to whom you referred that you claim Abra has insulted.

Such as:

How smug to be so secure in your delusions that you must insult any that do not agree with you.



I hadn't known it but by your revelation.laugh

Apparently, you also have unique and very independent concepts, including what constitutes a presonal attack.


Just because you write with eloquence don't think I can't spot a vicious attack when I see one. huh bigsmile

I have just realized that anything uncomfortably hypocritical is best viewed as a personal attack.

Amusing humor, Jeanniebean.:wink:

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


I don't sense any humor at all in you. You have no sense of humor whatsoever. When you laugh, you only laugh in a mocking way. You shield yourself with false faces.

You underestimate people because you think you are so smart.

JB

Dragoness's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:02 AM
My understanding from when I was younger was that the cross is not accurate anyway. I heard that they used poles and that the human body cannot hang from the hand or wrist as portrayed on the crosses anyway. But then again the biblical account of things is very seldom close to historically accurate. It is meant as a parable or something along those lines.

no photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:03 AM


The Fairy Land Fighters


They are the white-lighters,
The Dudly-do-righters.
Like fairies they flutter
Admiring each other.

When the rain falls
On the fairy parade
Washing the dust off
The silly charade.,
There they are
With tooth and claw
Spewing sweet poison
And fairy law.

But they will smile
And blow you a kiss
And act as if
There is nothing amiss
All the while dancing
In poison light
On the border of hell
At the edge of night.

They always do
what they think they must
High on themselves
And fairy dust.

They are the white-lighters
The fairly land fighters.

JB


That's really cool. glasses

Did you just write that?

You should post that in the poem forum if you haven't already, it's really good. flowerforyou


Thanks, Yes I just wrote it. I will post it in the poetry forum.

JB flowerforyou

wouldee's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:18 AM





Thank you for defining me as insulted.


Actually I was referring to the people to whom you referred that you claim Abra has insulted.

Such as:

How smug to be so secure in your delusions that you must insult any that do not agree with you.



I hadn't known it but by your revelation.laugh

Apparently, you also have unique and very independent concepts, including what constitutes a personal attack.


Just because you write with eloquence don't think I can't spot a vicious attack when I see one. bigsmile

I have just realized that anything uncomfortably hypocritical is best viewed as a personal attack.

Amusing humor, Jeanniebean.:wink:

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


I don't sense any humor at all in you. You have no sense of humor whatsoever. When you laugh, you only laugh in a mocking way. You shield yourself with false faces.

You underestimate people because you think you are so smart.

JB




Jeannie,

Name the insulted. Don't leave the most visible ones out, please. Be concise. Can you?

Vicious attacks are synonyms for anything that isn't evasive and rhetorical nonsense, apparently.

Care to elaborate on that with the contextual clarity that is so apparently lacking in Abra, that even he avoids defending the indefensible?

I suppose your need to speak for Abra qualifies you with the credentials to spout your pontificant contempt of the abject ludicrousy of rhetorical diatribes parading as intelligent debate . I disagree.
You are not credible in your own personal attack.



You certainly are not underestinmated by me at all.

I anticipate your lapdog snipes at every turn and am not surprised to find that your willingness to involve yourself emotionally should not also bring an emotional retort from you in seeking the last word for defence of your own brand of contemptuous and deceitful arrogance.

Were it clear that you have any estimation of the conversation, you would wisely have comprehended to distance yoursalf from speaking for another.

Your own hypocrisy is evident.

Emotional outbursts hallmark your attentions, but do little to excuse your lack of manners and respect for the points of views of others that reflect anything opposed to your contrarian attitudes.


It is humorous.

The false face is your hypocritical nature in judgement of things not to your liking, apparently.

I should acceed to your opinion? NOT!!!!


flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:25 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Sun 05/04/08 11:26 AM

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:27 AM

oops, my grammatical edit was too late, but your answer is still to the point, though.

Mudslinging to you is but a disengenuous metaphor for disguising and camoflauging your diatribe and rhetoric when called upon to give account of.

Circular and endless are your machinations, Abra.

Pleading ignorance is more of the same.

Govern yourself better and make sound comments and you won't experience such discomfort.

After all, if you say nothing, nothing will be contended with.

Certainly you see the wisdom of speaking a few clear words intelligently verses the much speaking reitierations that are only circular and argumentative.

Hypocrisy abounds , my friend.

You are capable of better.

And yet, you remain evasive and pretensiously feign innocence.

Mudslinging, indeed!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


Did you actually say anything in this post that made a tangible point that could be addressed intelligently?

If you did, I apologize for having missed it. The entire post just sounded like an onslaught of more personal innuendos aimed at maligning my character as far as I could tell.

If you have a specific point you’d like to discuss that's on topic I’d be glad to address it. All I see here is a very feeble, unwarranted, and futile attempt to somehow try to discredit my integrity.

I see nothing on topic to respond to.

You seem to be taking my comments concerning my view that the Bible is absurdly incredulous as a personal attack on you.

Evidently I must have made some really significant and concrete points that you feel can’t be refuted.

Otherwise why would you be foaming at the mouth like this?

Care to elaborate on that with the contextual clarity that is so apparently lacking in Abra, that even he avoids defending the indefensible?


I have done nothing that is indefensible. You’re making wild and unwarranted accusations about me personally. Yet I haven’t attacked you on a personal level, or anyone else for that matter.

And now you seem to be turning on Jeanniebean when all she did was suggest that she didn’t see where I made any personal attacks on anyone. ohwell

wouldee's photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:50 AM


oops, my grammatical edit was too late, but your answer is still to the point, though.

Mudslinging to you is but a disengenuous metaphor for disguising and camoflauging your diatribe and rhetoric when called upon to give account of.

Circular and endless are your machinations, Abra.

Pleading ignorance is more of the same.

Govern yourself better and make sound comments and you won't experience such discomfort.

After all, if you say nothing, nothing will be contended with.

Certainly you see the wisdom of speaking a few clear words intelligently verses the much speaking reitierations that are only circular and argumentative.

Hypocrisy abounds , my friend.

You are capable of better.

And yet, you remain evasive and pretensiously feign innocence.

Mudslinging, indeed!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


Did you actually say anything in this post that made a tangible point that could be addressed intelligently?

If you did, I apologize for having missed it. The entire post just sounded like an onslaught of more personal innuendos aimed at maligning my character as far as I could tell.

If you have a specific point you’d like to discuss that's on topic I’d be glad to address it. All I see here is a very feeble, unwarranted, and futile attempt to somehow try to discredit my integrity.

I see nothing on topic to respond to.

You seem to be taking my comments concerning my view that the Bible is absurdly incredulous as a personal attack on you.

Evidently I must have made some really significant and concrete points that you feel can’t be refuted.

Otherwise why would you be foaming at the mouth like this?

Care to elaborate on that with the contextual clarity that is so apparently lacking in Abra, that even he avoids defending the indefensible?


I have done nothing that is indefensible. You’re making wild and unwarranted accusations about me personally. Yet I haven’t attacked you on a personal level, or anyone else for that matter.

And now you seem to be turning on Jeanniebean when all she did was suggest that she didn’t see where I made any personal attacks on anyone. ohwell




Abra,

do you not see the previous posts in our exchange?

You evade them even still.

And like you, I am expected to reiterate myself? NOT!

It is clear to any that takes the time to read our exchanges that you are choosing deference and feigning accountablility.


Jeannie, like you, has an agenda to disrupt all things not contrarian.

I am not surprised at your conveniences.

It is precisely your hallmark, and hers, to spout ad infinitum
with the autonomy of opinionated self righteousness that affords the very thing upon your persons that you spout as being of a nature of personal attack and not one of a differing truth, which only justifies that the hypocrisy borne emotionally is selective to the purposes of your agenda which, apparently, is not to be questioned nor accounted for intelligently.

The abyss of the darkness of your dissimulations is blindingly visible to the coherent.


Be advised that your comfort zone affords you friction when not shared.

Evolution, baby.


flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

no photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:52 AM
Name the insulted. Don't leave the most visible ones out, please. Be concise. Can you?


You did not name the insulted. I was referring to YOUR reference to people that you claim that Abra insulted. I even quoted YOUR statement.

I will quote it again:

You said:

"How smug to be so secure in your delusions that you must insult any that do not agree with you."

These are your words woudee. You did not name the insulted. You are the one who knows the name, I do not.

JB


no photo
Sun 05/04/08 11:58 AM
Wouldee said :

Were it clear that you have any estimation of the conversation, you would wisely have comprehended to distance yoursalf from speaking for another.



You brought me into the conversation by telling Abra that his fans were "invisible" I am a fan and I am not invisible. I have a computer, and I even have a live web cam aimed at me so you can see for yourself that I am not invisible.

http://www.springfieldcolorado.com/live-art/

I speak for myself, but I will speak "for another" if I so choose.


JB

no photo
Sun 05/04/08 12:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/04/08 12:32 PM
Emotional outbursts hallmark your attentions, but do little to excuse your lack of manners and respect for the points of views of others that reflect anything opposed to your contrarian attitudes.

It is humorous.


You would not know "humorous" if you were standing in it.

But I do so enjoy reading your hateful venomous spewing of poison.

You remind me of a spitting cobra riled up by a snake charmer.

JB


Abracadabra's photo
Sun 05/04/08 12:05 PM
It is clear to any that takes the time to read our exchanges that you are choosing deference and feigning accountablility.


I still haven't seen anything specific in your postd to respond to other than personal degradations. Yet you continue to accuse me of feigning accountability.

If you have a point to make you've totally eluded me.

If you can state precisely what it is that you think I've feigned accountability for I'll be glad to address the issue.

Until then you just appear to me to be blowing smoke.

wouldee's photo
Sun 05/04/08 12:50 PM
Feigning ignorance hallmarks both of you quite aptly.

Niether of you have made a point other than to take issue with that which is not of your contrarian viewpoints.

Both relish in the distinction that judgement is fluid and that context and credibility is an isolated selection based on abject refusal to remain coherent.

It is no surprise.

You both exhibit feigned remarks that only intend to change the subject and steer away from your indefensible diatribes.

Yet you persist as offended and belittled.

Pitiful.

Still, nothing coherent comes from either one of you.

I stand pat knowing that neither one of yyour incredible delusions is relevant.

Certainly you both shall continue in this rhetorical nonsense just to hear yourselves applaud one another.

Having nothing more to say, you both enjoy reducing your indefensible contrarian diatribes into an abyss of incoherent babble so defining your anarchistic onslaughts against psots not sharing your licentious narrowness.

That will not change, nor will your demeanors mature.

Being so full of yourselves is your choice.

Create your own threads for your hidden agendas and preach to your own choirs, as you are wont to do elsewhere.

Your agendas to disrupt anything not held in your contemptuous world views deserve no less.

At least you can expect to have the comfort of knowing that you are safe harbors in your own threads speaking to things you understand, and not miring yourselves in things that call your ignorance and offensiveness to question by any that can refute you intelligently and thoughtfully.

Neither one of you has the coherence or the fortitude to respond to the issues that you have raised with your own diatribes.

Addressing your machinations deserves nothing .

You have, however, defined your ineptitude in not responding to your own offensive attack agendas and bearing their foolishness.



Transference is not tolerated by me of either one of you.



This is clearly ended with your silence that brings on your machinations.

Please continue your insulting and callous disregards among yourselves.

It is clear that you are intent upon being unwise and foolish and offensive in your petty recalcitrance and obstinant belligerence.

That is your Cross to bear.


flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile






no photo
Sun 05/04/08 12:55 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/04/08 12:57 PM
Wouldee:

So what's your point?

Having nothing more to say, you both enjoy reducing your indefensible contrarian diatribes into an abyss of incoherent babble so defining your anarchistic onslaughts against psots not sharing your licentious narrowness.


I think yours is an abyss of incoherent babble. Wow, you are really a piece of work.laugh laugh

I do so love reading your incoherent babble though. drinker

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 05/04/08 01:02 PM

Wouldee:

So what's your point?

Having nothing more to say, you both enjoy reducing your indefensible contrarian diatribes into an abyss of incoherent babble so defining your anarchistic onslaughts against psots not sharing your licentious narrowness.


I think yours is an abyss of incoherent babble. Wow, you are really a piece of work.laugh laugh

I do so love reading your incoherent babble though. drinker


Tell him not to bogart that joint. laugh

Lordling's photo
Sun 05/04/08 01:15 PM

Answering your own diatribe is apparently too difficult to justify and deflecting your accountability for your your own premise in any post is warranted as being for invisible fans?


Abra's fans are not invisible.
He does not engage in personal attacks on people like you do.

Too many people confuse themselves with what they believe, and this is why they are feeling insulted. This is because they don't know who they truly are and cannot distinguish themselves from what they believe.

JB




drinker
A most profound & accurate observation, and one of my own favorites.