seth....lol = laughing out loud

i'm first to win the nomination....abra has already written a poem about me and rabbit turned it into a song with graphics lol..can you say the same??? lmao (laugh my azz off)

They are all cults.

You are new to this stuff huh?

LOL = Laughing out loud

What nomination?

Iv been on scrap forms long enough 2 think lol would be loosers on line.
Yea religons are cults, alough i would like 2 find a better discriptive term cult is 2 strong 4 some groups and groupies.

this nomination seth...follow the bouncing ball here lol

Ur mean

As the religious faithful are incorrect in claiming that there is a god, atheists too are incorrect in claiming that there is not a god. How can that be you ask? There is or there is not a god right? One side must be correct right? No. Quiet wrong. As agnostics such as Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan and myself have concluded, the human mind can never know whether or not gods or anything supernatural exists.

Absolutely. Agnosticism is the only truth anyone can genuinely be sure of.

Even if a religious person actually should happen to encounter a supreme being who claims to be their creator, etc. How can they ever know with certainty that the supreme being is telling the truth?

It could just be a superior life form that is claiming to have been the creator of this universe, but maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s just far superior to us and just playing on our ignorance (and possibly on our beliefs).

After all, a superior life form could, at the very least, know all about us by our literature and other media. So it could become completely familiar with any and all myths that we have created. It could easily take the form characters in those myths when it appears to us. We would have absolutely no way of knowing that it was actually feeding on our own superstitions.

It might even be benevolent and mean well. It might just be using that façade to give us something to cling to that we can identify with.

In short, it would be impossible to know if God exists even if God shows himself to us. We still can’t know with certainty that the entity is truly God. All we can know with certainty is that an entity exist that powerful enough to appear as God to us.

So yes, even in the face of the clouds opening up and an apparent deity descending from the heavens, there would still be skeptics wondering if this is the real thing or just some super-powerful entity playing on our own superstitions.

Even a real God would surely appreciate the depth of intellectual power he gave to us. If he gave us the ability to question these things then surely he would expect us to do precisely that. After all, we wouldn’t want to be worshiping any false Gods just because we were too frightened to ask questions would we?

ok...short and sweet...can you please explain to me what Agnosticism is

You are right Abra. There is no way that lack of belief could be a religion. I bet they don't believe in bigfoot, but I would hardly call non-belief in bigfoot a religion.


I could just see Big Foot coming into Walmart and meeting the door greeter. Here comes Big Foot as a cross between Harry of the Hendersons and Dirty Harry from the Clint Eastwood movie. The door greeter says, "Welcome to Walmarts. Can I help you, sir?" Big Foot says, "I am looking to buy a new pair of shoes. Do You feel lucky? Well, do ya punk? The 45 being the largest shoe size in the world and could flatten you like a pancake..."

lol trout...he needs socks to go with them

....for the definitions i posted here about religion and atheism...i can see how some could see it is a religion

Well, what do you think of religionism and religiosity?

religiosity

1. the quality of being religious; piety; devoutness.
2. affected or excessive devotion to religion.

religionism

noun
1. exaggerated religious zealotry
2. exaggerated or affected piety and religious zeal

that one is more to an extreme than the other

For some religions it is believed that a true believer is required to go out and talk about their god, no matter the result. However, according to man's law, if you ask them to stop and they continue it is harrasment, and they have broken man's law.
Considering as you do nto believe in god, I would hazard a guess in saying you would follw man's law without question, right? well, just remember this is a religion free country and you do not have to listen to anything you do not want to listen to.

Did you hear the last silly song? It's not entirely about you but you're in it.

http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/108784

I dont care why people believe in god or what god they believe in, I just wish they would afford me the same curtesy.

it's a matter of respect....for all sides. whether it's beliefs, politics, whatever. boils down to showing respect

I never have a problem with religion in real life. Other than Jehovah’s witnesses coming to my door. Although, they aren’t really a problem. I just tell them I’m not interested and they are easy to get rid off.

In fact, when I told the last gentleman that stopped by that I have my own belief about God he became curious and asked me what they were. I stated explaining pantheism to him, and he seemed to be quite intrigued by it. He never really heard of the idea before. I got a real sense that he was still searching for something himself.

He kept asking questions and I would answer them. After a while he just stood there silently. So I raised an eyebrow like as if to silently ask him if he has anymore questions. It was funny because I think he just then realized that I wasn’t the one who was trying to sell anything. I don’t care whether he believes in pantheism or not. I think he was expecting me to continue to preach but all I was doing was answering his questions.

I really got a sense that he wanted to learn more about pantheism.

Anyway, I think on an Internet forum things are different. I’m not hear to challenge anyone’s beliefs on a personal level. I see this as a worldly media and so I post my thoughts on why I feel that popularly accepted doctrines have no merit behind them. That’s not intended as an insult to those who might believe in them. I just offer it as food for thought for anyone who’s interested in the information.

To me it’s like fighting cancer, only in this context I’m fighting against cancer of the spirit instead of a cancer of the body. It’s a humanitarian thing from my point of view.

I see it as education versus ignorance and superstition.

sure bout that