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Topic: A Constitutional Conundrum
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Thu 04/24/08 02:47 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2008/04/constitutional-conundrum.html

A Constitutional Conundrum
By Brian Beutler
The Media Consortium

Thursday 24 April 2008

The House Judiciary Committee has taken its contempt of Congress fight to civil court, setting the stage for a legal battle that could redefine executive and congressional power.

Overshadowed by a heated presidential-election battle and daily news of a sinking economy, a lawsuit that could change the shape of governmental power is making its way through U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. The suit challenges the Bush administration's attempt to flout contempt of Congress charges against one current and one former White House aide. Its outcome could limit the scope of presidential power by providing Congress the means to investigate the inner workings of the executive branch without having to rely on the Justice Department, which is part of the executive branch.


It is a shame that a president of these here United States has to violate his power so badly that new regulations have to be fought for.


Chazster's photo
Thu 04/24/08 05:41 PM
hmm, it says Bush administration not just the president.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 04/24/08 05:48 PM

hmm, it says Bush administration not just the president.


Hmmmm, if he was a man of integritynoway he was in a position to stop it from happening.huh

Chazster's photo
Thu 04/24/08 05:50 PM
assuming he can control everyone in the entire administration. Might as well tell Bill Gates to control every employee at microsoft. I suggest finding another hobby other than blamethrowing.

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Thu 04/24/08 05:55 PM

assuming he can control everyone in the entire administration. Might as well tell Bill Gates to control every employee at microsoft. I suggest finding another hobby other than blamethrowing.


Bill Gates does control his employees, especially on the job. I expect nothing less from the president. No blame necessary. Facts are what we are dealing with here.

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Thu 04/24/08 05:57 PM
Oh, so your saying noone in microsoft ever made a decision that Bill didn't like. If that was the case Vista wouldnt have been pushed back so many years. Just because you are in charge doesn't mean you can control everything.

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Thu 04/24/08 06:01 PM

Oh, so your saying noone in microsoft ever made a decision that Bill didn't like. If that was the case Vista wouldnt have been pushed back so many years. Just because you are in charge doesn't mean you can control everything.


If his employees defied the rules or over stepped boundaries, they would be removed, you can bet on it. I expect nothing less from our president.

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Thu 04/24/08 08:39 PM

http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2008/04/constitutional-conundrum.html

A Constitutional Conundrum
By Brian Beutler
The Media Consortium

Thursday 24 April 2008

The House Judiciary Committee has taken its contempt of Congress fight to civil court, setting the stage for a legal battle that could redefine executive and congressional power.

Overshadowed by a heated presidential-election battle and daily news of a sinking economy, a lawsuit that could change the shape of governmental power is making its way through U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. The suit challenges the Bush administration's attempt to flout contempt of Congress charges against one current and one former White House aide. Its outcome could limit the scope of presidential power by providing Congress the means to investigate the inner workings of the executive branch without having to rely on the Justice Department, which is part of the executive branch.


It is a shame that a president of these here United States has to violate his power so badly that new regulations have to be fought for.




A Constitutional Conundrum?

A Media Consortium?

Do we want to Prevent Presidential Perfidy?

Or Exculpate Executive Exaggeration? huh

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Thu 04/24/08 08:52 PM
No branch of government needs more power than they have now.
President Bush has not abused his power. If you want to talk about abuse of power lets talk about the filibustering that has taken place every time Bush nominates anyone for anything.

Every day that congress is in session you loose a little bit of your liberty.

mnhiker's photo
Thu 04/24/08 08:54 PM

No branch of government needs more power than they have now.
President Bush has not abused his power. If you want to talk about abuse of power lets talk about the filibustering that has taken place every time Bush nominates anyone for anything.

Every day that congress is in session you loose a little bit of your liberty.


So what liberty have you lost?

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Thu 04/24/08 09:44 PM


Oh, so your saying noone in microsoft ever made a decision that Bill didn't like. If that was the case Vista wouldnt have been pushed back so many years. Just because you are in charge doesn't mean you can control everything.


If his employees defied the rules or over stepped boundaries, they would be removed, you can bet on it. I expect nothing less from our president.


The problem with that is that bill dosent controll what happens at microsoft, the board of directors does.

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Thu 04/24/08 09:48 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 04/24/08 09:49 PM
so whose going to keep congress in check? This is a bad idea. Checks and balances. The constitution was pretty near flawless when it was written. It just needs to be followed and not fooled with so much.

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Thu 04/24/08 09:52 PM
The House Judiciary Committee has taken its contempt of Congress fight to civil court, setting the stage for a legal battle that could redefine executive and congressional power.

hmmmmm????? isn't congress made up of as many democrats as republicans and did the people vore them into office????? still don't see how it's one man's fault

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 04/24/08 09:54 PM
actually i think congress is a little more democratic now...

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/24/08 09:56 PM
drivin...i could be wrong but i think the last time i looked it up the democrats had 3 more than republicans. i'd look it up again but my computer crashed and i had to rebuild it...now it's slow lol

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 04/24/08 09:57 PM
yeah your probably right.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/24/08 09:58 PM
I guess I'm confused stil...maybe i'm not as smart as most butit sounds like the democrates were sitting around picking their noses while the evil Bush and his minions did whatever they want to...now they are crying unfair (sarcasm btw) but you get the jist

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Thu 04/24/08 09:59 PM

so whose going to keep congress in check? This is a bad idea. Checks and balances. The constitution was pretty near flawless when it was written. It just needs to be followed and not fooled with so much.


I agree, if we simply demanded and enforced our elected officials to take their oath to the constitution as serious as they do their lives, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in.




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Thu 04/24/08 10:00 PM
ooooo i love it when a man tells me i'm right (doesn't happen often) even if it's a probably...i'll take it lmao

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 04/24/08 10:01 PM

I guess I'm confused stil...maybe i'm not as smart as most butit sounds like the democrates were sitting around picking their noses while the evil Bush and his minions did whatever they want to...now they are crying unfair (sarcasm btw) but you get the jist


right againflowerforyou :wink:

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