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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm?se=yahoorefer
Obama often boasts that he "is the only candidate who isn't taking a dime from Washington lobbyist." Not true according to the record. Obama's fundraising team includes 38 law firms members that were paid $138 million to lobby the federal government. Obama has received 2.26 million from employees of these law firms that lobby in Washington. Is Obama misrepresenting yet another issue? |
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more than likely...
corruption and lies are what created everything we have today unfortunately, cant argue with it but meh... |
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more than likely... corruption and lies are what created everything we have today unfortunately, cant argue with it but meh... |
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Ummm, how and why are the people so IGNORANT??? (meant in the truest of terms, simply not knowing). And I'm being nice!
How much THINKING does it take to put this 8 peice puzzle together!!?? Not much folks! Geez..JUST THINK! How can ANYONE raise 200 million dollars for a campaign to get a position that pays 250k per year for 4 years. DO THE MATH!!!! Thats ONE MILLION DOLLARS (plus really good benies), but paid 200+ MILLION TO GET THERE!!!! Ummmm..can you say OWNED!!!?? BOUGHT AND PAID FOR!!!???? Has America become that STUPID!!????  
Obviously! 
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm?se=yahoorefer Obama often boasts that he "is the only candidate who isn't taking a dime from Washington lobbyist." Not true according to the record. Obama's fundraising team includes 38 law firms members that were paid $138 million to lobby the federal government. Obama has received 2.26 million from employees of these law firms that lobby in Washington. Is Obama misrepresenting yet another issue? change the b for an S in the name and I rest my case |
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Ummm, how and why are the people so IGNORANT??? (meant in the truest of terms, simply not knowing). And I'm being nice! How much THINKING does it take to put this 8 peice puzzle together!!?? Not much folks! Geez..JUST THINK! How can ANYONE raise 200 million dollars for a campaign to get a position that pays 250k per year for 4 years. DO THE MATH!!!! Thats ONE MILLION DOLLARS (plus really good benies), but paid 200+ MILLION TO GET THERE!!!! Ummmm..can you say OWNED!!!?? BOUGHT AND PAID FOR!!!???? Has America become that STUPID!!????
Obviously!
You missed the point. The point being that from the very beginning Obama portrayed himself as a different candidate and yet when the truth comes out it's one misrepresentation after another. Much of his appeal to people was that he hadn't been indoctrinated by Washington and didn't owe anybody any favors. |
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Edited by
AdventurousOne
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Wed 04/16/08 02:20 PM
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You missed the point. The point being that from the very beginning Obama portrayed himself as a different candidate and yet when the truth comes out it's one misrepresentation after another. Much of his appeal to people was that he hadn't been indoctrinated by Washington and didn't owe anybody any favors. Nah, I didn't miss your point, I totally understand that point. Its because I have been seeing the SAME political bs since I was born in 1965! And I watch the American people do the same STUPID things EVERY TIME!! Yet they keep electing these LIARS into office and do NOTHING about it! Of course Obama LIES! Clinton LIES!, McCain LIES! Basically 99.3% of carreer poilitcians LIE! Unfortunately I can't even name one who doesn;t that is still in a political office! My point to you thread is simple. It's basically "DUH! He lies and so do ALL the rest! When are you going to WAKE UP and actually change it all???" The Constitution of the United Staes begins with "We the people" and if you look, those words were made much larger than all the rest. Do you think that was a mistake!!?? NO! It was to show WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE SUPPOSE TO BE RUNNING AND IN CHARGE OF OUR COUNTRY!!!! And it's not that way now! (not meaning this in anger...just frustrated as hell because I would have thought people would be smarter than all this. And I'm just an average guy...but I figured it out a long time ago. and even when told directly, just like here...why don;t people understand its just that simple??? ) 
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You missed the point. The point being that from the very beginning Obama portrayed himself as a different candidate and yet when the truth comes out it's one misrepresentation after another. Much of his appeal to people was that he hadn't been indoctrinated by Washington and didn't owe anybody any favors. Nah, I didn't miss your point, I totally understand that point. Its because I have been seeing the SAME political bs since I was born in 1965! And I watch the American people do the same STUPID things EVERY TIME!! Yet they keep electing these LIARS into office and do NOTHING about it! Of course Obama LIES! Clinton LIES!, McCain LIES! Basically 99.3% of carreer poilitcians LIE! Unfortunately I can't even name one who doesn;t that is still in a political office! My point to you thread is simple. It's basically "DUH! He lies and so do ALL the rest! When are you going to WAKE UP and actually change it all???" The Constitution of the United Staes begins with "We the people" and if you look, those words were made much larger than all the rest. Do you think that was a mistake!!?? NO! It was to show WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE SUPPOSE TO BE RUNNING AND IN CHARGE OF OUR COUNTRY!!!! And it's not that way now! (not meaning this in anger...just frustrated as hell because I would have thought people would be smarter than all this. And I'm just an average guy...but I figured it out a long time ago. and even when told directly, just like here...why don;t people understand its just that simple??? )
It's fear and BS that's been running the country for the last 7 years. 
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It's fear and BS that's been running the country for the last 7 years.
I agree with the fear anf BS..but know its been going on MUCH longer than 7 years. Any administration, and I am guessing you think Clinton was good, will manipulate the numbers to make things look much better than they really are (and I am NOT bashing Clinton here..just stating fact). This problem started all the way in the Nixon era and has slowly built itself to the garbage we have today. They have learned to use weapons of mass distraction on the people. Its NOT just a coinsidence that the American IQ has steadily dropped over the last 20-25 years. And notice our government STILL has done NOTHING to really repair our educational system??? Why?? Because less intelligent people are easier to lead and ask a lot less questions! So all this is no accident!
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It's fear and BS that's been running the country for the last 7 years.
I agree with the fear anf BS..but know its been going on MUCH longer than 7 years. Any administration, and I am guessing you think Clinton was good, will manipulate the numbers to make things look much better than they really are (and I am NOT bashing Clinton here..just stating fact). This problem started all the way in the Nixon era and has slowly built itself to the garbage we have today. They have learned to use weapons of mass distraction on the people. Its NOT just a coinsidence that the American IQ has steadily dropped over the last 20-25 years. And notice our government STILL has done NOTHING to really repair our educational system??? Why?? Because less intelligent people are easier to lead and ask a lot less questions! So all this is no accident!
I didn't defend Clinton. There are some things that passed during his administration that I just as soon hadn't (like NAFTA). And his affair with Monica Lewinsky was a distraction. But I agree with you that we didn't learn the lessons of history and the Nixon Administration was a good lesson. The fear, lies, loathing and corruption go on. As for weapons of mass deception, here's a good link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQVszMFwcQ |
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I didn't defend Clinton. There are some things that passed during his administration that I just as soon hadn't (like NAFTA). And his affair with Monica Lewinsky was a distraction. But I agree with you that we didn't learn the lessons of history and the Nixon Administration was a good lesson. The fear, lies, loathing and corruption go on. As for weapons of mass deception, here's a good link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQVszMFwcQ Just to clarify, I was only guessing at the Clinton issue, only since you had mentioned the "last 7 years", so I took a guess that you MAYBE thought Clinton was ok. I thought Clinton was "ok" as President, he did typical politcal bs of course, but no great harm was coming to the country, so I can't stomp on him either. He just made me angry when he lied to the country about his affair. I don't care that he had one, it's none of my business. But instead of him saying "that is my personal life and has nothing to do with my business as President", then I could have lived with that. But instead he committed perjury and for that I think he should have went to jail, just as you or I would have.
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