Can you have any type of relationship without respect? I think it is a
requirement to a degree of friendship. What about amoung family members.
If one loses all respect for another are they even family to each other?

Humm to me respect is something that someone earns goes hand in hand
with trust without trust myself I can not have anykind of a
relantionship.

respect is something you have to give in order to get!!!
and without it, there is no relationship, or friendship!!!

Well I agree with both of you and needed to hear it from others to know
I am not thinking off the wall here. I was informed by my brother that
he has no respect. Those were his exact words. Therefore I no longer
consider him my brother.

Someone that has no respect for others can not expect respect from
others either.

But........... kinda harsh to say he is no longer your brother because
he says he has no respect.

yea, he is your brother and maybe he is hurt for some reason!
I agree with Txs. even thoe he told you he has no respect,
he is your brother!!

That is not the only reasin I feel the way I do but this is not the
place to vent personal issues. I just needed advice on the importance of
respect so I would know if I was making the right decision here. I feel
confident that I am looking back on our history and the events of the
past two days. All the problems and turmoil he has created in the past
two days allows me to know it is all in the past water under the dam. In
this case, he went with the water in my mind. Blood or no blood I would
not treat anyone or anything as bad as he has treated me.

you have to earn respect and if they dont thought them of the boat

Kev, family is family,even though I have a brother like that. Weather I
like it or not he's still my brother. I don't have to like him or even
love him,but he's still my brother.

yes respect is a must...absolutely the foundation for any relationship.

kevin my parants thought me out 3 years ago but they are still my
parnets they belive in tough love you now

There are all types of relationships without respect, bad relationship &
work relationships are two perfect examples..

As far as your Bro's comment, what does that really mean "He doesn't
Respect you anymore"? Respect is shown in the way he treats you and acts
towards you; and if he treats you "Bad" Kick the crap out of him like
when you were kids: that put thangs back in perspective...even if you
lose the fight he'll "Respect" the attempt.... But he is your Bro (no
matter what, weather you get along or not).

I have made the decision. I am just going to disassociate myself from
him entirely at this point. The time for us talking things out has past
without him starting it off with a heart felt appology followed by a
complete explaination and the truth to anyone he told the lies to as
well. If that happens he would still need to open his eyes and see
reality and respect those that spent thousands of hours trying to
improve themselves in the past few years while he sat around and
stagnated. Making things worse for himself.

Kevin, It probably all boils down to jelousy!! I know its just a
competive thing with siblings, my older sister said i ruined her life..
why because I was born??
my younger brother, oh man!! we box! but we stick up for each other.. &
we tend to say the most hateful things to the ones we love is the
saddest part. just take BREATHER because it will all blow over in time.

it takes up too much space in your head & heart to hate & it just make
you a angry person.


just let be!

feel sorry for him that he is letting that hate fester!

Sluggo,
If he was not handicapped he would already be in the hospital.

Catchme,
As far as I am concerned whats done is done. The only chance he has now
is to do the best he can wiht the knowledge he has. He started this
fight between us and it must have been like him being a little league
baseball picher pitching to the New York Yankees. He actually doesn't
realize what he did by starting this fight. It has effected both my
mother and father as well as myself as the fight was not only directed
at me but at my father as well. You know the situation here pretty well.
His actions are not excusable in my opinion. One thing you may not know
my dad will be 75 years old this year. When a persons actions effect
another to a point that a 75 year old man that normally goes to bed
between 12 and 3 am goes to bed at 8 pm that is not right.

Kev, even if for no other reason, think of your Dad!! don't you think
he would be more proud of you turning the other cheek feel sorry for him
for his ignorance! I don't know if your parents baby him for his
handicap. think how that would look you picking on him..... this is easy
for me to say The way Jamie & I use to box. OMG! my Dad would be yelling
at us. break things, my dad's new drive way...

Anyways he's still family & you sound jealous just by attacking his
intelligence. show them your better than that.
give him big hugs!
then kick him in the nutts when their not lookin!!evil smile

The good thing about argueing with family memeber (Specially Bro's) is
that you can lay into them without reservation and litterally tell them
everything straight and to the point! Starting with How he's pissing you
off, why it pisses you off, even laying into him about how he's annoying
your parents so bad in their retirement years that they'd rather sleep
through them and if he doesn't strighten up he might start to absorb
some of the abuse he's dishing out! F**king with you is one thing but if
he's F**king with your parents thats a different story... I'm sure
that's most or at least part of the issue (him constantly upsetting &
annoying your parents).

LoL, my last fight with my Bro was 4 years ago (not counting 3 Christmas
ago when I threw him over a chair and had him up against the wall before
my 73 year old father broke us up..lol)and he's 2.5 years older than me
and now he lives with me... So I do know what it's like to fight with
Brothers....

Bottom line Kevin, he'll always have your Blood in him and vise
versa.....

Well Kev regardless you will do what ever you have made your mind up to
do but like they say he is your brother even tho we love our family we
don't have to like them all the time or there ways. But then we should
not let what they chose to do in life change the way we feel about them.

I can proudly say I have an older brother 4 yrs older and a younger
sister 14 yrs younger that not one time in our life time have the three
of us ever had a cross word with each other. We do not pry in each
others lives but we are always there for each other and yes we do live
within 30 min of each other. It is just that we do not judge each othere
for our choices we make, but... always there if one falls.

Wise word TXs I cannot tell you how much has gone on but it has been
more then anyone should have to take. Blood or not I will not speak to
him until he is honest with the business accociates he is dealing with
now and atleast comes to me and my father with a sincere appology. At
that point I will probably speak to him and allow him to show me what he
can do to earn my respect. His lack of respect for me and blatently
telling me he has none at all. Took away every ounce of respect I may
have had for him. On top of that he will not come up here even to visit
his dieing mother regularly. He has to change alot about himself for me
to be proud he is my brother. I personally dont think he is man enough
to gain back what he lost this past weekend.

((((((((((((((((((((((hugs Kevin)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))