Topic: Reincarnation
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Thu 04/10/08 10:45 PM
I think i spelled it right? What do you guys/girls think about it. I know what I think and due to the reasons for the way I believe I cant be swayed, but im courious what everyone elses take on the subject is.

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Thu 04/10/08 10:47 PM
i highly belive in it. as i have had many pastlifes that have came to lightflowerforyou

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Thu 04/10/08 10:49 PM
I am an old soul as well..

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Thu 04/10/08 10:51 PM
Shakespeare here. laugh

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Thu 04/10/08 11:24 PM
I think it requires faith not unlike that which is required to believe in any theory of afterlife. I suppose (and so it stands to reason that it would depend highly on the outcome) that reincarnation is appealing in some ways in that it would allow us in some ways to live forever. The trick is whether you tie Karma in to the equation. If you are living your life now and were to come back as someone with a rather fortunate life, I suppose that is pleasant enough. But if you are unfortunate to come back as a slightly retarded shrew, I think the idea of an eternal dirt-nap sounds much better.

Still, it really does require faith.

-Drew

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Fri 04/11/08 12:49 AM
........" What Does the Bible Say about Reincarnation?"........


Q: "Does the Bible talk about reincarnation anywhere? How can we know this is our only life?"

our A: Great question. Beyond the answer given below, we also have an article that discusses this subject: Reincarnation, Karma & Life after Death.

To answer your question, the Bible never mentions reincarnation and in fact states the contrary...


It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment. (Hebrews 9:27)

If the Bible is correct, then why doesn't God allow for reincarnation? Consider that the idea of reincarnation may be flawed at its core. Reincarnation is the theory that with enough lives, a person can somehow finally get it right and then be allowed into paradise/nirvana. Many people think they are good enough -- already -- for heaven. (They haven't robbed banks or killed anyone.) With reincarnation, the idea is very similar. The only difference is that it suggests that you'll be good enough...eventually.

Why is such a scheme flawed? Because it doesn't take into account the sinfulness of man. The Bible says that the human heart is the most deceitful thing in existence (Jeremiah 17:9). That's pretty bad. It gets worse. The Bible also says that all people have sinned and fall short of God's glory (Romans 3:23), that all have turned from God and gone their own way (Isaiah 53:6), that there is not even one person who does good (Psalm 53:3), and that there is no one who doesn't sin (Ecclesiastes 7:20).

Therefore, what good what it do to come back to earth in a different body? The degree of change would not be enough to make a difference. You live your first life as a sinner who has turned from God, then you come back as a different person who nonetheless is a sinner who turns from God. This endless cycle would give no benefit to anyone.

Since we are sinners, we need forgiveness. Since we all turn away from God, we need to turn back to Him (repentance). This is the consistent message of the Bible.

God tells us to turn to Him for forgiveness and seek Him in order to know Him. If we do that, then heaven begins in this life and can merely carry on into the next life. For He Himself -- not a different place to live -- is what it's really all about.

Even though the Bible refutes reincarnation, it does speak of a resurrection of all people...


"An hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs shall hear His voice, and shall come forth; those who did the good to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil to a resurrection of judgment." (John 5:28-29)

Here is more Scripture regarding that judgment...


And I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it.... And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened....and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds....And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15)

Want to know how to have your name written in the book of life? Sincerely ask God now for His forgiveness. Jesus died for your sins so that you could be forgiven. But to receive God's forgiveness means turning to Him in sincerity and with a commitment of your life. See Knowing God Personally.

© EveryStudent.com

flowerforyou

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Fri 04/11/08 01:00 AM

........" What Does the Bible Say about Reincarnation?"........


Q: "Does the Bible talk about reincarnation anywhere? How can we know this is our only life?"

our A: Great question. Beyond the answer given below, we also have an article that discusses this subject: Reincarnation, Karma & Life after Death.

To answer your question, the Bible never mentions reincarnation and in fact states the contrary...


It is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment. (Hebrews 9:27)

If the Bible is correct, then why doesn't God allow for reincarnation? Consider that the idea of reincarnation may be flawed at its core. Reincarnation is the theory that with enough lives, a person can somehow finally get it right and then be allowed into paradise/nirvana. Many people think they are good enough -- already -- for heaven. (They haven't robbed banks or killed anyone.) With reincarnation, the idea is very similar. The only difference is that it suggests that you'll be good enough...eventually.

Why is such a scheme flawed? Because it doesn't take into account the sinfulness of man. The Bible says that the human heart is the most deceitful thing in existence (Jeremiah 17:9). That's pretty bad. It gets worse. The Bible also says that all people have sinned and fall short of God's glory (Romans 3:23), that all have turned from God and gone their own way (Isaiah 53:6), that there is not even one person who does good (Psalm 53:3), and that there is no one who doesn't sin (Ecclesiastes 7:20).

Therefore, what good what it do to come back to earth in a different body? The degree of change would not be enough to make a difference. You live your first life as a sinner who has turned from God, then you come back as a different person who nonetheless is a sinner who turns from God. This endless cycle would give no benefit to anyone.

Since we are sinners, we need forgiveness. Since we all turn away from God, we need to turn back to Him (repentance). This is the consistent message of the Bible.

God tells us to turn to Him for forgiveness and seek Him in order to know Him. If we do that, then heaven begins in this life and can merely carry on into the next life. For He Himself -- not a different place to live -- is what it's really all about.

Even though the Bible refutes reincarnation, it does speak of a resurrection of all people...


"An hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs shall hear His voice, and shall come forth; those who did the good to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil to a resurrection of judgment." (John 5:28-29)

Here is more Scripture regarding that judgment...


And I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it.... And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened....and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds....And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15)

Want to know how to have your name written in the book of life? Sincerely ask God now for His forgiveness. Jesus died for your sins so that you could be forgiven. But to receive God's forgiveness means turning to Him in sincerity and with a commitment of your life. See Knowing God Personally.

© EveryStudent.com

flowerforyou




I didnt ask what the bible said I asked what you belived. My belifs are not what you would call conventional.

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Fri 04/11/08 05:17 AM
I am with morning song. I don't believe in reincarnation but I am interested in gearing from those that do. I believe what I believe not because I was taught to believe but because I was shown personally and as such I can say without a doubt in my mind that God exists. So therefore my faith will not change. What interests me most of others is to learn how they came to believe what they believe and why. flowerforyou drinker

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Fri 04/11/08 09:11 AM

I am with morning song. I don't believe in reincarnation but I am interested in gearing from those that do. I believe what I believe not because I was taught to believe but because I was shown personally and as such I can say without a doubt in my mind that God exists. So therefore my faith will not change. What interests me most of others is to learn how they came to believe what they believe and why. flowerforyou drinker





i agree with Morning Song flowerforyou


and with Zapchaser drinker




flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou








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Fri 04/11/08 09:14 AM
To answer your question, the Bible never mentions reincarnation and in fact states the contrary...


This isn't surprising at all since King James did not believe in reincarnation. He simply rejected any stories that mentioned reincarnation and only included stories that made no mention of it. Some scholars even believe that he may have eradicated mentions of reincarnation from within specific stories that he included in his "bible".

The KJV Bible is really nothing more than a canonization of the beliefs of King James. People who worship the Bible claim that they are placing their faith in God. But they are wrong. What they are really doing is placing their faith in King James.

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Fri 04/11/08 09:30 AM
The beliefs are as diverse as the people to whom they belong...

If it brings good upon the face of this earth... do it!

flowerforyou

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 04/11/08 11:09 AM

The beliefs are as diverse as the people to whom they belong...

If it brings good upon the face of this earth... do it!

flowerforyou




i agree... drinker


nothing wrong with that...:wink:


and everything right with it :heart: flowerforyou :heart:

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/11/08 11:31 AM
flowerforyou Do you believe that Prince Siddhartha Gautama (The Buddha ), provided salvation and escape from the endless cycle of suffering that is Karma ? flowerforyou

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Fri 04/11/08 11:40 AM

flowerforyou Do you believe that Prince Siddhartha Gautama (The Buddha ), provided salvation and escape from the endless cycle of suffering that is Karma ? flowerforyou




i love the book Siddhartha ...:heart: :heart: :heart:

by Hermann Hesse drinker smokin drinker


and the Prophet :heart: :heart: :heart:

by Kahlil Gibran drinker smokin drinker


they have been my absolute favorites


since early adolescence




i have been exposed to a great deal

of teachings and various doctrines...


i love the Essenes also...drinker


the Essene Gospel of Peace flowerforyou


and the Essene Gospel of Jesus The Christ...smokin


i try to embrace the things that unite us :heart:


and try to downplay the things that divide us... flowerforyou