If I believe that nothing is separate...

Then my logical construct supports this notion or fails...

Rights... Wrongs.... Mistakes.... Fixing....

All of those supporting elements necessitate parameters based on a sense of ought...

Whose?

I believe that everything is connected. I guess that means the same thing.

But if nothing separated you from me, then why don't you just appear here in front of me so we can talk in person?

In this universe we live with the illusion of separate things, yet we are still connected. Lets not melt into a single blob just yet.

If anything is outside of a space-time continuum, then a timely constuct does not apply... CANNOT apply...

An instantaneous existence does not exist in time.

The higher self does not exist in time. Therefore its point of view is above time, like a time traveler's would be perhaps.

The incarnations do exist in time and must exist in a space time environment. Therefore, when the life stream goes into the space-time environment to occupy a body, it picks a date and place to be born. It can pick any place on any time line within that environment.

A time traveler: Lets just say we were time travelers and we come upon a universe that has its own time-space environment and its own laws. It has life forms living within that environment. The only way we can experience that life style is to project into a time slot and occupy the bodies living there.

We will need to find the coordinates. The coordinates are the three dimensions of space and time. The three dimensions of space determine WHEN within the movement of the bodies (planets) we will enter the body. The coordinate of time will determine WHERE in time we will be born.

JB

I see what you are saying... I think.

Here is where it logically fails, for me...



It does not exist at all then. An instantaneuos existence is an impossibility. Existence requires a measure.



If one exists outside of a space-time continuum, in a simultaneous existence, then one has no ability to measure time. Therefore, picking a coordinate would be impossible. ?There is no distinction, no ability to distinguish between points in time if they all happen at once.

personally I preferred "The Wrath Of Khan", I thought it was much more entertaining...

I have thought about that puzzle and found the answer to it in science. Every body is like a universe and it has around it what is called a field. Each person has a field around them. It is shaped like an egg. It contains its own separate space time environment. Each body has its own space time environment.

This is also true of the Higher Self. It does not live in our space time environment... our universe. It has its own. It is like a field.

Our solar system also is surrounded by a field as it moves through the galaxy. An atom has its field. A cell has a field.

Each field has its own space time environment.

JB

He was so sexy. He could lay some of that wrath on me anytime!

JB:

Ya just gotta excuse my anal behaviour in thought...

I am far too linear, I have been told...

I don't know...

That much...

I know...

The higher selves contain and have access to a lot more information than we do. They are also aided by others who know all about this time-space world. There are many Higher selves experiencing the earth game, not just one. There are others too who coordinate the entrances into this space-time world.

I know, it all sounds like fantasy. Oh well.

I do remember being born and I remember the place I was before I was born. It was a place of light and joy and many others were there. Then I was told: "Its time to go.." Then I was in the body about to be born.

This is a memory that I have, I am serious. I was really mad at the doctor for spanking me. It hurt.

JB

In the afterlife will we be able to do the same? shalom

John 20:26-27

26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Yahshua came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!" 27 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."
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Luke 24:36-43

Now as they said these things, Yahshua Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, "Peace to you." 37 But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit. 38 And He said to them, "Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have."

40 When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet. 41 But while they still did not believe for joy, and marveled, He said to them, "Have you any food here?" 42 So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. 43 And He took it and ate in their presence.
NKJV
Now angels also can eat. So how can they be spirits?

Gen 19:1-3

Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, "Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant's house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way."

And they said,"No, but we will spend the night in the open square."

3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and THEY ATE.
NKJV Shalom Of Blessings

If you guys would focus your thoughts on real science instead of all this spiritual speculation you might actually achieve something great.

Seriously though, there are questions in science that are answerable. The questions you guys are posing are nothing more than total speculation. Things that can’t be known.

You may as well just sing, “Row Row Row Your Boat, Life is but a Dream”, because that’s really all any religion is saying.

Even those who believe in a Godhead like in the ancient mythologies. A creator who created the universe and oversees it as the ultimate authoritarian. It still has to be based on a dream. However most of them don’t realize this. They are still thinking in terms of a Newtonian clockworks universe. But that picture has long since died. They’re beating a dead horse and just don’t know it.

Life is definitively a dream. The laws of physics and science aren't going to apply to God.

Sorry milesoftheusa, I don't get the purpose of your post. It is not really on topic.

Abra
Are you going to tell me that the scientifc community does not believe that if we could speed up our matabilism fast enough that we could not walk through walls? Blessings..Miles

You are right. It is all speculation. But even so, life can still be a dream or a holographic matrix.

All I do is take all information I have and find where it makes sense to me.

I am only certain that I exist.

All else is speculation. I have not ignored real science or even religious doctrine in my model of reality, as I have compared the meaning of the wrath of God to The law of Karma and the law of cause and effect.

All information has value. It is my paint with which I paint my own picture of reality.

I guess you could call it jeanniebeanism.

JB

It is not the metabolism that needs to speed up, it is the frequency of the waves that project the mass that is your physical body. (Which is really made of energy and light.)

Or Abra what was the reason that MIT was trying to stop light in 1999. That year they achieved success and could speed it up and sloww it down. Now that was 8 years ago. What was the purpose of this experiment? Is it not known at the speed of light you could be invisible to us because of the speed you were going? Shalom...Miles

Now darn it James...

If I want to play in the sandbox... you can't stop me! It is my free will to do so...

I gotta go organize some stuff...



Peace...

If it brings good things upon the face of this earth...do it!

yep +1 for creation 0 for the planet of the Apes.ha