Topic: Great kid!
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Thu 04/03/08 04:20 AM
...and teachers are no longer allowed to discipline kids huh


BEVIER, MO. -- Some alleged threats reportedly made by a Bevier Elementary student against three of his classmates has parents concerned for their children's safety.

KTVO met with two of the students and their mothers Wednesday.

Bevier 5th graders Kaylee Harrington and Jerod Shoemaker say a boy in their class physically assaulted them on separate occasions.

Harrington claims the boy grabbed her throat twice: once last Friday; again on Monday.

"At recess he choked me again, and then he said, 'I'm gonna kill you.' So my sister stepped up and said, 'If you're gonna kill her, then I'll hurt you.' She was trying to defend me, and then he said, 'I'll just have to kill you first,’" Harrington said.

Shoemaker claims the boy attacked him in band class.

"When I was putting away my instrument, he took his band book, and he slammed it into my ear. And, after that, my ear had a big ringing noise in it." John Garlock asked, "He did that on purpose?". Jerod responds, "Yes." John asked, "Why did he do that?" Jerod said, "I don't know, and then after he hit me, he said, 'Got you,'” Shoemaker said.

School administrators declined to do an on-camera interview, citing confidentiality policies.

The district did issue the following written statement: "The Bevier C-4 School is investigating the situation. The district has always taken great lengths to ensure the safety of the students and staff of Bevier C-4 School District. The district’s safety has always been our utmost concern. The student who has been accused of the concerns is currently not attending the school while it is being investigated. We deal with all issues according to our district’s policies."


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Thu 04/03/08 04:32 AM
They need their ass busted......what is wrong with our society. I did not say beat them but bust them like we got when we were growing up. Most kids now days have little to know discipline at home or school. So they run wild...grumble grumble

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Thu 04/03/08 04:34 AM
Speaking of Great Kids..!! I got a call yesterday morning...my Son got suspended from school for the rest of the week. Some kid (considerably bigger than my Son) was picking on him and then pushed and punched him in the stomache. My Son fired back with one punch and broke the bully's nose...!! Whooooohoooo...!!

Dat's my Boy drinker smokin

Bully THIS drinker

UFC....UFC....UFC....UFC

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Thu 04/03/08 04:47 AM
Edited by mlafolle on Thu 04/03/08 04:59 AM
we would not have these problem in schools if teachers were aloud beating there students anymore! lol and yes i can say this because im training to be a teacher. but or a serious note. teachers have no power in there classrooms anymore. they cant touch there students, hell they are not aloud to grade papers in red ink because its to bold! RED INK!!! come on people. and were are the kids parents? most likly its a single parent, and please dont think that im downgrading any single parents because im not. im simply saying its a hard enough job with two parents that are active in the kids life. whats our society coming too....

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Thu 04/03/08 07:33 AM
Why is the focus on the school and teacher's? My first thought would be the parents...

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Thu 04/03/08 07:39 AM
what is the link used for this story?

and YES fear..if I read you right...it's the parents job...not the teachers

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Thu 04/03/08 07:44 AM

Why is the focus on the school and teacher's? My first thought would be the parents...


Are you suggesting that if "the kid" acts up in school, the school should call the parent to come in and kick the kids @ss...? I'm OK with that... If other parents can't make it in...I'd gladly handle their kids too (and the parents..if they need their @ss kicked too) drinker smokin

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Thu 04/03/08 07:49 AM
I got a few paddlings in school....and I deserved them! I think it is a shame that corporal punishment is no longer allowed in school!

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 04/03/08 08:04 AM

what is the link used for this story?

and YES fear..if I read you right...it's the parents job...not the teachers


It's not just that but the issue has to start somewhere, and where a child spends most of their time at home it should be looked at rather than blame the school as if they were the root of the issue.

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Thu 04/03/08 08:14 AM
it is the parents job..but i remember been bullied real bad at school especally in my english class..when i told the teacher..her words were..what do you expect me to do...there needs to be some respect and discipline brought back into the classrooms backed by the parents

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Thu 04/03/08 08:16 AM
I agree. I take responsibility for my son and his actions and it's up to me and my ex to raise him properly. I will bust his butt when needed and he's 17. the teachers have enough to do and worry about than doing the parents job. the parents of that child should be held responsible as well as the child

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Thu 04/03/08 08:25 AM

it is the parents job..but i remember been bullied real bad at school especally in my english class..when i told the teacher..her words were..what do you expect me to do...there needs to be some respect and discipline brought back into the classrooms backed by the parents


I'm not bringing responsibility into this, there is an obvious point that the parents failed at. If a child acts up usually it is because of the environment they were raised in (parenting, punishment, neglect, etc.) if the only focus when a child acts up is the school that is throwing the responsibility of the parent out the window.

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Thu 04/03/08 08:47 AM


it is the parents job..but i remember been bullied real bad at school especally in my english class..when i told the teacher..her words were..what do you expect me to do...there needs to be some respect and discipline brought back into the classrooms backed by the parents


I'm not bringing responsibility into this, there is an obvious point that the parents failed at. If a child acts up usually it is because of the environment they were raised in (parenting, punishment, neglect, etc.) if the only focus when a child acts up is the school that is throwing the responsibility of the parent out the window.
i agree its the parents resposibility...but this wasnt bullying by one person it was a group thing..the teacher didnt even want the responsibility of getting in touch with parents to report this...but if i found out my son had been naughty in class he would be told at home in no uncertain terms that he was out of order

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Thu 04/03/08 08:55 AM

it is the parents job..but i remember been bullied real bad at school especally in my english class..when i told the teacher..her words were..what do you expect me to do...there needs to be some respect and discipline brought back into the classrooms backed by the parents


if the teacher wouldn't do anything...then i would be beating down the door of the ISD because bullying can lead to someone seriously getting hurt. the parents of the bully should have responsible and it is the school's responsibility to do something so the kids will feel safer. if the teacher won't do anything...i would go to the parents myself or have the cops called (just so i wouldn't get in trouble) and let them handle it.

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Thu 04/03/08 09:07 AM
it was sad at the end of the day..i didnt want to tell mum and dad had enough problems..so i stopped eating...mum found out that way..i even tryed the headmaster..no luck there..but i keep an eye on my son..so it doesnt happen to him

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Thu 04/03/08 09:28 AM



it is the parents job..but i remember been bullied real bad at school especally in my english class..when i told the teacher..her words were..what do you expect me to do...there needs to be some respect and discipline brought back into the classrooms backed by the parents


I'm not bringing responsibility into this, there is an obvious point that the parents failed at. If a child acts up usually it is because of the environment they were raised in (parenting, punishment, neglect, etc.) if the only focus when a child acts up is the school that is throwing the responsibility of the parent out the window.
i agree its the parents resposibility...but this wasnt bullying by one person it was a group thing..the teacher didnt even want the responsibility of getting in touch with parents to report this...but if i found out my son had been naughty in class he would be told at home in no uncertain terms that he was out of order


I do agree that teacher's should make aware the situation surrounding one's child, however in this day and age very few teachers do their job because they love it. It is unfourtanate that we have so few that don't care how much they get paid as long as they teach the mind of the future, we need more teachers like this.

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Thu 04/03/08 09:34 AM




it is the parents job..but i remember been bullied real bad at school especally in my english class..when i told the teacher..her words were..what do you expect me to do...there needs to be some respect and discipline brought back into the classrooms backed by the parents


I'm not bringing responsibility into this, there is an obvious point that the parents failed at. If a child acts up usually it is because of the environment they were raised in (parenting, punishment, neglect, etc.) if the only focus when a child acts up is the school that is throwing the responsibility of the parent out the window.
i agree its the parents resposibility...but this wasnt bullying by one person it was a group thing..the teacher didnt even want the responsibility of getting in touch with parents to report this...but if i found out my son had been naughty in class he would be told at home in no uncertain terms that he was out of order


I do agree that teacher's should make aware the situation surrounding one's child, however in this day and age very few teachers do their job because they love it. It is unfourtanate that we have so few that don't care how much they get paid as long as they teach the mind of the future, we need more teachers like this.
yep agreed as well hunhappy

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Thu 04/03/08 04:33 PM
I completely agree with you all that "parenting" is first and foremost in the formulation of a child's disposition. But in the instance that the parent is a worthless-waste-of-flesh (with the notion that child rearing is up to educators and school administrators), educators should be allowed to single the child out for needed attention to apparent behavioral problems. Not only in the disciplinary fashion, but for guidance as well.

I come from a family of educators and am one myself. Unfortunately, our hands are tied, even when we recognize that there are problematic signs of potential harm to the child themselves, let alone school-mates.

This is such a sad situation and I feel that the "No Child Left Behind" pet project of President Bush is terribly myopic in the fact that education alone is key. Unfortunately, so many social skills are developed during school years, and educators should be allowed to assist in that development.

OK...I will get off my soap box now. My apologies for the misnomer this morning. I mis-used the term "discipline" and threw everyone off base and into a tizzy. Please forgive flowerforyou

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Thu 04/03/08 04:59 PM
Lindyy says:

Since this happened on school property, there is a liability issue I would think.

It IS the school district/teachers/principal's obligation to ensure safety. Choking is a serious offense.

Lindyy
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