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see wikpedia on the topic.

it has been resurging since 9-11.

There are so many groups of survivalists and militia in the this country that civil war could very well erupt as a result of a severe downturn in the economy here.

The disaffection is growing exponentially.

Being prepared to understand such ramifications also means gleaning knowledge about one's surroundings and the extensive political landscape and the forces within it that are rather covertly establishing networks. And the Federal Government would like you to think that they don't recognize the threat as real and imminent, but they do!!!!

Be warned. It is not going away.

And even within the survivalist community there is no one group or coalition of groups standing for cohesion in thier respective preparations. They are viewing the landscape as a collectiv of local resisitors of Martial Law Declarations.

Same is somewhat true with the local militias.

The possiblility of anarchistic divisiveness and violence will only further fracture any viable consensus being formed to stem the tide of civil war between the Fedral Government and these groups.

The US military cannot defend against such a thing without destroying the whole country in a scorched earth policy. Think about that. Funding can never equip the military sufficiently for a prolonged internal conflict.

State's rights will not even bolster a Federal action.

Martial law will suspend liberties and cause the grid to be abandoned.

Just how radical is the thought of a civil war?

Just how preposterous is it's potential?

Just how prepared are these groups?

They are not global market fans, they are not inclusive of foreign investment strategies, they are not even compatible with current efforts to move this country into socialism.

This country is armed to the hilt.

How much trust is there really in our government successfully quenching such a dire sequence of events as a downward economic spiral threatens to exascerbate the standard of living and livlihood of small American businesses and local communities?

How many young Americans will engage their neighbors in armed conflict between the Government and these groups defending personal rights and responsibilities for securing the safety and security of their friends and family and livlihoods?

How easily will such an internal conflict degenerate into an a confligration that targets minorities and foreign nationals and corporate holdings and resources for plunder?

The cities on both coasts have the majority of the population, where the need for food shelter and housing is in geatest demand, but it is the interior that is the base for these groups and their intentions are to hold the interior and defend the land for those living on it as paramount in their minds. The cities are determined to be abandoned and mass migrations from the cities is part of a planned strategy to resist and defend against, should people flee the cities in search of food and safety.


For all those that live in the major metropolitan areas and are lacking survival skills there are many things to consider should this land erupt in civil disobedience once again, after the pattern of the ills that brought this nation into being as a soveriegn it its genesis.

I am not taking sides, and I am not encouraging rebellion.

I am merely pointing out how great the risk is in light of present realities within this nation.

The stark reminders of the Federal Government's will to attempt at dismantling such groups and their sympathizers has led to great caution and carefulness of these groups in preparation for more intrusions and attempts to disband them.


I am only posing a hypothetical scenerio that has already been anticipated and such a possibility can no longer be thought of as just a fringe lunatic faction of isolated extremists marginalizing themselves only, any longer.

The momentum and openness of their sophistication and preparadness needs to be understood by all.

It is a rapidly growing phenomenon in this country.

I know this is off topic, but it is only because of the dialog in this topic that I bring it up.

Symptoms are signs of greater problems, I believe.

there are many Texas factions in Texas trying to make texas it's own country again. they have stocked up on weapons, training etc

i'm sorry for hijacking the thread yasha

My question would be.....

How will God be drawn into the quagmire and by whom and for what purpose as a defence for positions taken by any side in such a conflict?

That remains to be seen just how delusional justifications for rebellion and martial law can become, and how emotionally charged the justifications may spiral into an abyss of incredulity on every side.

i will HONESTLY admit...I don't have an answer

me neither.