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All I'm asking is why (do you think) teachers can't have lives?
Ah! It looks to me that the above-stated question is a bit of a false dilemma, because teachers can have lives. What the author of the OP really wants to know is why are there ethical boundaries regarding the off-the-job behavior of teachers. Exactly, illiterate :) |
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Edited by
mccdijon
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Mon 10/07/13 11:32 PM
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It is hard to find genuine guys that are not taken, not fake, speak English and respect their bodies physically, spiritually and emotionally and know how to treat the women as they would treat themselves. It REALLY IS. Your gender is just too damn picky. Why do you think we are picky? You obviously are, don't you want only white women? Why shouldn't a woman have the right to decide the type of man she wants? Aren't you doing the same? Some women will not date or even remotely be involved with a person who has a "double standard". Some women have experienced the worse relationships they could have every imagined. Do you honestly think they want to go there again? I for one would rather be single than to settle! It's all about attitudes-everyone's attitudes, not just women! Care to comment? 
Sure sweatheart, I'd love to ;), but first, I never said being picky was a crime, but i'll elaborate for you. You see, it's mainly Because a man knows when to stfu. Women can never be satisfied. A man can wait for a woman he PREFERS over a cold beer and call of duty. A woman will nag about "no good guys out there" and turn around and reject the ones who look you in the face. I'm not saying that you women can't be picky, I'm saying that you purposely want what you can't have. Then once you've gotten it, you STILL complain. That's all you women do is nag nag nag. You can NEVER be happy with the **** you take for granite such as the guy who's been friend zoned since high school. Who's stuck by you for over 10 years. The one you call brother or best friend who've always been in love with you and bought you valentines day presents (even when your bad boy didn't). Men can suck it up and shut up. That doesn't seem to be in a woman's vocabulary. Food for thought though, White women are my preference because their nagging is less intimidating than any other race. Yes I stereotype, yes I'm bitter, yes I'm immature. Tell me something I don't know. But I will tell you this. I'm very blatant and straightforward about a lot of things. I've watched too many guys get hurt (myself included) because a woman wants to "politely reject" a guy by lying and saying, "well, I'm not ready for a relationship", then a week later catches her with the ******* bully who used to knock his books down when seen and the only logical excuses you can gather are "I didn't want to ruin our friendship", "you're like a brother to me" or completely ignore the guy. THAT is why guys (or rather "good guys") are nowhere to be found. You indecisive women scare them away. On a side note. I love a battle of the sexes, care to argue? 
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It is hard to find genuine guys that are not taken, not fake, speak English and respect their bodies physically, spiritually and emotionally and know how to treat the women as they would treat themselves. It REALLY IS. Your gender is just too damn picky. |
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But my guy whoever said a teacher cant have a life outside the workplace?, but when personal things happen involving a student at the school she works at it is the school business.! They are held to higher standards just like cops, and they should be, a teacher just can't go around ****ing 18 year old students in her spare time, just because their 18, its not a good look.. No school district is limiting a teachers personal life.?!?! but once again if that personal life involves a student its their business, their employing her, and if its a publice school the city is paying her, if she doesnt like it, go to a private school and get a job, no ones maaking her work or them... I understand what you're saying, but you aren't answering my question AND you're sounding like everyone else. I'M NOT STUPID. I KNOW NOT TO BRING IT TO THE SCHOOLS ATTENTION. I KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES BLAH BLAH. PLEASE READ IT AGAIN I KNOW. All I'm saying is teachers have feelings and sexual needs like everyone else and whoever they choose to satisfy those needs with (AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT INVOLVE SCHOOL) meaning that THE SCHOOL HAS NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER, its no ones business. When people hear "former student and teacher" THEY ASSUME. LIKE EVERYONE else here who answers. I ****ing know. I know. I understand. I get it. I know. I get it. I know. A hundred ****ing times I KNOW. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT ****. Why can't people think "love" when they see two people happy. Instead they ASSUME AND ASSUME. No one ****ing cares what you assume. Love is ****ing love. All people do is try and force what they believe is wrong on everyone else. **** is annoying thanks |
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Also, because all of the good girls want bad guys and vice versa. This world is *** backwards but all of the good guys were ran away by rejection back in the prehistoric days.
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Cuz they're extinct. ^this |
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Edited by
mccdijon
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Sun 10/06/13 06:50 PM
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Congratulation, please read OP. :) Please read entire thread, esp the advice given: Dump the attitude, grow up, don't be so rude, join a teenage forum. Good luck with your topic. A few things, things. 1. Thank you ;). 2. I don't seek advice, I seek ANSWERS, 3. Telling me to grow up because no one has properly answered my question ultimately renders YOU immature (since YOU have yet to answer my question also). Also, on the house, let's clear something up here. I'm not looking for advice, I'm looking for direct answers. Most people would know that seeing as they were not illiterate. Please use proper grammar, read the OP and answer my question. As for the "teenage thread" comment, please do know that this is a community. A community consists of several age ranges incase you didn't know that either. Again, thanks for the advice though. Do that and we've got a deal sweetheart. |
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Edited by
mccdijon
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Sun 10/06/13 06:44 PM
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What i dont understand is how the school even know.? Do you go visit her at school? if so thats not a good idea, given they will guess that you were on a relationship while you were at the school... but it can never be proven so yes she could get fired, but no way they could bar her license... My question is why let the school know in the first place.? and why would she get depressed? if its love she just can move on into another school, teachers are not a dime a dozen...! i figure this relationship started while you were still in school, doesnt matter if you were 18 at the time or not as long as you were a student its off limits, and for a good reason... I say you all are young if the school has a problem, tell her to quit and find another job... keep your personal things away from your employer!!!! ^This is not really an answer, but atleast you seem to understand a few points that I have made out. Here's the thing. This was sort of what I was asking. I was asking how will the school find out. But MAINLY, why teacher's aren't allowed to have lives outside of school. I played my relationship smart. I had feelings for my teacher. But I waited until we met a t a poetry night (that she always would attend and after graduation) to let her know. She was reluctant, but things started to spark. Next thing you know, we're seeing each other a few months after. All I'm asking is why (do you think) teachers can't have lives? Example answer: most likely because of the ignorant people's opinions trying to be forced down upon other people's. THAT is an answer. But instead, I get criticised by everyone saying "grow up" or "don't get mad because you didn't get the answer you wanted" when in actuality, I HAVE no answers. If you consider telling someone why teachers cannot date students an answer, then so be it. But the question, or rather, PRINCIPLE of the question is Why teachers cannot have lives. I used my predicament as an example. But the actual question ranges from Teachers being able to smoke, work at strip clubs, have nudity in pics etc. Just like your average person would. I wouldn't restrict ANYTHING non-work (impact) related. Why? Because it's no one's business what a teacher does in his/her free time. As long as it doesn't impact work. And who a teacher is dating is actually none of the school/students/ignorant people's business. SIGH! Get me? |
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Edited by
mccdijon
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Sun 10/06/13 05:10 PM
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Congratulation, please read OP. :) Please read entire thread, esp the advice given: Dump the attitude, grow up, don't be so rude, join a teenage forum. Good luck with your topic. A few things, things. 1. Thank you ;). 2. I don't seek advice, I seek ANSWERS, 3. Telling me to grow up because no one has properly answered my question ultimately renders YOU immature (since YOU have yet to answer my question also. I'm not looking for advice, I'm looking for direct answers. Most people would know that seeing as they were not illiterate. Please use proper grammar, read the OP and answer my question. Do that and we've got a deal sweetheart. |
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Apparently there's a rule against physical contact with students at Edinburgh university, or so one of the tutors was saying. She said that sometimes a student will burst into tears because they recieved a bad grade for example but this tutor said that she can't give them a hug. Also, when I met this same tutor I shook her hand and although she was friendly towards me the handshake seemed to make her uncomfortable. They don't have a problem with going to the pub with students though. ^ Prime example, doesn't have **** to do with what I'm asking, and ultimately, people continue to use the phrase "student" instead of "former student" when that's LITERALLY what the OP is about. And CrystalFairy raises eyebrows when I call the answerers illiterate. All I'm saying is, Read the ENTIRE THING. REEEEAAAADDD!!!! Alright, let's suppose a teacher dates a girl that he taught when she was jail bait. That doesn't look too good because even if he waits until she's legal he wasn't being professional by flirting with a student that he was there to teach. I don't think that they want people that would even entertain those thoughts while working with children. A guy that I went to school with did get into a relationship with a woman that had been our English teacher and by that time they were both consenting adults, so I don't personally have a problem with that. Error, situation doesn't pertain due to the fact that nothing like this happened DURING school. Please READ OP for further understanding. If you are illiterate, please contact a local education. Hey, I'm not a mod here but if you carry on insulting people like this don't be surprised if you get banned from this site. The only thing in your OP that I haven't responded to is your point that the relationship existed before the rule. Well, tough luck because if the rule does now exist it still applies if that teacher wants to keep his job. Likewise, you may deny that anythin inappropriate happened while you were a student but you really can't prove that, or know if the teacher entertained those thoughts if you aren't a mindreader. Congratulation, please read OP. :) |
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Edited by
mccdijon
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Sat 10/05/13 12:47 PM
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mccdijon, I merely warned you that you might not receive from others the response that you appear to be wanting. The question that you have asked pertains to the standard of ethics that professional educators are supposed to abide by. Each school board (or college administration) can establish its own standard of ethics. So, should professional educators abide by the standard of ethics that governs their jobs? Should such a standard of ethics include a ban on educators dating former students? As I see it, those questions should be answered by professional educators, and I am not one of them. The responses or "answers" that I "want" have nothing to do with what I'm asking. Therefore, read OP please. That is all. I'm sure professional educators can agree with me that they would like to have a life without question. |
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Apparently there's a rule against physical contact with students at Edinburgh university, or so one of the tutors was saying. She said that sometimes a student will burst into tears because they recieved a bad grade for example but this tutor said that she can't give them a hug. Also, when I met this same tutor I shook her hand and although she was friendly towards me the handshake seemed to make her uncomfortable. They don't have a problem with going to the pub with students though. ^ Prime example, doesn't have **** to do with what I'm asking, and ultimately, people continue to use the phrase "student" instead of "former student" when that's LITERALLY what the OP is about. And CrystalFairy raises eyebrows when I call the answerers illiterate. All I'm saying is, Read the ENTIRE THING. REEEEAAAADDD!!!! Alright, let's suppose a teacher dates a girl that he taught when she was jail bait. That doesn't look too good because even if he waits until she's legal he wasn't being professional by flirting with a student that he was there to teach. I don't think that they want people that would even entertain those thoughts while working with children. A guy that I went to school with did get into a relationship with a woman that had been our English teacher and by that time they were both consenting adults, so I don't personally have a problem with that. Error, situation doesn't pertain due to the fact that nothing like this happened DURING school. Please READ OP for further understanding. If you are illiterate, please contact a local education. |
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Apparently there's a rule against physical contact with students at Edinburgh university, or so one of the tutors was saying. She said that sometimes a student will burst into tears because they recieved a bad grade for example but this tutor said that she can't give them a hug. Also, when I met this same tutor I shook her hand and although she was friendly towards me the handshake seemed to make her uncomfortable. They don't have a problem with going to the pub with students though. ^ Prime example, doesn't have **** to do with what I'm asking, and ultimately, people continue to use the phrase "student" instead of "former student" when that's LITERALLY what the OP is about. And CrystalFairy raises eyebrows when I call the answerers illiterate. All I'm saying is, Read the ENTIRE THING. REEEEAAAADDD!!!! |
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The questions in your OP have been answered by several ppl. You yourself started, and continue, to argue about it all. Which is fair enough, but in the process you start lashing out, calling ppl illiterate, basically suggest they're morons who don't read properly etc. If you want an adult conversation, you might wanna drop the attitude. And if you can't handle the replies you get, cos they simply don't suit you or your expectations, well, then don't ask questions. Or ask them on a teenage forum. I'm sure most of them will agree with you. I'll say it again illiterate. If my question has been answered properly, why would I be complaining? The reason for my arguement is due to the fact that all of these dumbasses keep putting "STUDENT" when the ****ing OP say FORMER STUDENT. That's my arguement. Now if you answer the question correctly, that's a different story, but as someone who no longer attends the school, all of these dumb *** "student" answers has the slightest to do with my circumstance. ;) |
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mccdijon, the topic of this thread pertains to something that is quite rare. Would you have introduced the topic if you were not personally involved with a former teacher of yours? Dodo_David, I Sure would have. Because it not only pertains to teachers, but homosexuals, bisexuals, nurses, race etc. Example: Hip-Hop artist Mackelmore did a song about how society treats gay people. Foes that mean that it applies to him? Hmmmm, last time I checked, he was straight. Nontheless, it's YOUR opinion (in which you are entitled to). Food for thought though, everyone has beliefs, but trying to dictate whether somone else's belief is "immoral" or "unethical" or any discriminatory OPINION of yours is anything but your concern. You don't agree, then you don't agree. Nuff said. But don't look down upon people because of your moral views.  I did not state my own opinion about the subject in the OP.
What I said was this: Your profile says that you are age 18 as of 1 October 2013. So, don't be surprised if others don't agree with your desire to be with a former teacher of yours. Seems to me that the entire arguement was based around me getting criticism for it. And you merely consigned it all. That's what I mean. You basically expect feedback to be negative instead of saying "this is what I think" --BlahBlah-- |
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mccdijon, the topic of this thread pertains to something that is quite rare. Would you have introduced the topic if you were not personally involved with a former teacher of yours? Dodo_David, I Sure would have. Because it not only pertains to teachers, but homosexuals, bisexuals, nurses, race etc. It's something called selflessness. Look it up. Example: Hip-Hop artist Mackelmore did a song about how society treats gay people. Foes that mean that it applies to him? Hmmmm, last time I checked, he was straight. Nontheless, it's YOUR opinion (in which you are entitled to). Food for thought though, everyone has beliefs, but trying to dictate whether somone else's belief is "immoral" or "unethical" or any discriminatory OPINION of yours is anything but your concern. You don't agree, then you don't agree. Nuff said. But don't look down upon people because of your moral views. |
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mccdijon, the topic of this thread pertains to something that is quite rare. Would you have introduced the topic if you were not personally involved with a former teacher of yours? Dodo_David, I Sure would have. Because it not only pertains to teachers, but homosexuals, bisexuals, nurses, race etc. Example: Hip-Hop artist Mackelmore did a song about how society treats gay people. Foes that mean that it applies to him? Hmmmm, last time I checked, he was straight. Nontheless, it's YOUR opinion (in which you are entitled to). Food for thought though, everyone has beliefs, but trying to dictate whether somone else's belief is "immoral" or "unethical" or any discriminatory OPINION of yours is anything but your concern. You don't agree, then you don't agree. Nuff said. But don't look down upon people because of your moral views. |
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mccdijon, the topic of this thread pertains to something that is quite rare. Would you have introduced the topic if you were not personally involved with a former teacher of yours?
Dodo_David, I Sure would have. Because it not only pertains to teachers, but homosexuals, bisexuals, nurses, race etc. Example: Hip-Hop artist Mackelmore did a song about how society treats gay people. Foes that mean that it applies to him? Hmmmm, last time I checked, he was straight. Nontheless, it's YOUR opinion (in which you are entitled to). Food for thought though, everyone has beliefs, but trying to dictate whether somone else's belief is "immoral" is anything but your concern. You don't agree, then you don't agree. Nuff said. But don't look down upon people because of your moral views. |
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Personally, I think it's unethical, but that's just me. I agree with Msmyka, there's no way to prove when your relationship began or ended, and it just looks shady. Besides, I could never have romantic feelings for any of my students, my mind would never go there. To each his own.... personally, if it feels good do it I pray for all and f_ _ _ 'em all  me and my student
are getting tired ^This. Enjoy you HAPPY opinionated free life because at the end of the day, what people say is really irrelevant. :) hi-five Irrelevant is right! right you are,I only wish I would have knows that at your age and not had been such a people pleaser, Always been so concerned as to what others think. Peace ã ã 》 out That's HOW I ended up learning. I used to be so concerned with what everyone thinks. Then one day it backfired and I said "you know what?, **** it". |
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Topic:
Sexy White Women
Edited by
mccdijon
on
Wed 10/02/13 07:30 PM
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Awww sorry you feel that way just give it a try what your looking for may just be around the corner have faith and I know we can be smart a$$$$$$ sometimes but we mean no harm. 
I'm serious though. There REALLY are no type of women on this site. And a vast majority of the other sites make you pay. (Even just to send messages). Maybe this online dating thing isn't me. I should've been known that finding "love" means finding a needle in a hay stack next to a million hay stacks in a dark cave of 10000feet inside of a hidden cabin behind a secret wall with a password that only Obama has access to within a dead person's suit underneath a casket in a cemetary with no flashlights. Sigh |
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