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Edit... scrolled around.. found some rules. Still not entirely sure how it works... :(

What the hell is this thread about? All I see are dancing banana's. O-o

After reading all of this I'm just going to say this and that's the last thing I will be posting in this thread.

You're wasting our time. Go to the Lord of the Rings fan sites and take your opinion laced argument there. I don't see a difference in what you're attempting to argue and a child crying since his parents won't buy him the expensive toy. Wah. So, the movie isn't what you wanted, so get over it. Move on.

Jackson and that tiny 20 million dollar salary of his HAS already moved on.

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You do realize that Tolkien developed his stories which were heavily influenced by many other pieces of literature? I don't think you do...

Sorry dear, they're not very indie in my opinion. Try Editors, Tiger Lou, or The National. Then come back to me about indie.

Not saying that any of them are bad, I listen to them all thoroughly, but you're indie selection is weak... very.

PS. If you want much more music, let me know. I can broaden your horizons. :)

Ping Pong

See here... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0328258/

*sighs*

This is an endless, daresay, argument. Which it's not because you're just waging war with opinions.

You shouldn't believe that Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh TRIED to leave things out. No, like I said, they did the best with what they had. But, this can be said about nearly EVERY film...which always involve cuts, rewrites etc. I think a great example to compare the LOTR franchise to would be Akira. Which features an absolutely massive amount of source material. It's huge, and originally Katsuhiro Otomo wanted to do an entire adaptation of the manga to film. Could you imagine a 200 hour movie, with that amount of work, and incredible f*cking animation? It's impossible. Budget would cost more then Japan itself.

That aside, we could go into how the Spider Man movies, which don't follow the comic story at all, the X-Men films which made me leave the theatre, or classics like Clockwork Orange or The Third Man, which had a completely different ending which caused a lot of conflict with director and the writer.

It's endless... Could bicker about it till the end of time. Most people say books are better then then films. Other people would rather watch the films. Should just be glad that movies like LoTR get people to go out and pick the books up out of curiosity. That was how I was introduced to LOTR. The movie blew me away and I went out and got/read the book the day after seeing it.

Someone once screamed that at me when I first moved to this area. I pondered about it for a long time. Could NOT figure out what it could mean.

Many months later with my friends, some drunkards once again bombarded us with that stupid chant and luckily, my friends were able to tell me... it was a very disappointing discovery.

In retrospect, it does sort of encourage good spelling.

Why do they call Columbus a city? It's not. :(

Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh (whom you neglect to mention) had to adapt a massive amount of material. When making a film they have these things called deadlines, budgets, etc. etc. You know, I would bet, if Jackson knew that he could get the funding to produce the 20+ hour version that could include nearly every single book reference then I bet he would have done it. But what you don't realize is that it doesn't work like that. Hell, they barely got the studios to give them the money for the first one. (If you haven't noticed, Fantasy movies are not exactly mainstream blockbusters.) Not to mention the actors, who need to be paid (not to mention their own busy schedules that need to be worked around) the people who build sets, the people who operate the camera-- My POINT is... it's impossible. It couldn't be done. The content was more then sufficient. (It did win MANY awards as you know.)

Since this movie HAD to sell or there would never have been a Two Towers or Return of the King, the characters had to be written to work on screen (aka the script.) Which, if you're not familiar with, it's not an easy task. Alas, it is impossible to completely capture the imagination that Tolkien conjured (which that TOO has many references from other literature.) But, some how they did what they could with the time, the money.

You have to realize that movie making is a business. A HUGE business. It made serious money. Peter Jackson's direction was excellent, and it never would have even been produced without him. That aside, many many people would have never even read the story (some people, apparently do not read books) so really... i'd say they were an excellent set of films.