*He looks at the vampire and then back at Draven*

Sumting dat ye and ye family be wantin' very much. Although I don't tink it be best ta be showin' ye in here. Follow me..

*He heads back outside the inn*

Ah, he be inside already? Great! Ye wait here. Der not be a lot o room in dat Inn and I think ye all be likin' me present too!

*He pushes open the inn door with a large bag slung over his shoulders. Something inside the bag is moving a bit. He sees Draven and the Vampire and he stops a bit.*

Ey! Draven. I got ye a present. But... er ye may wanna look at it outside.

*He snickers a bit*

*A loud bellowing laugh is heard from outside the inn*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! DER BE MORE OF YE?? AN HERE I THOUGHT ONE MINOTAUR BE ENOUGH!! AH WELL GLAD TA SEE YE AROUND!!

HEY YOU!! YEAH THE ONE WITH THE SAWED OFF HORN! WHERE BE DRAVEN! I GOT HIM A PRESENT!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Lol, I can only assume you are talking to me. But yes, I am 23

The odd thing about that is that True pagans who have found their path have no interest in an alternative to their belief system. Just as you have no interest in an alternative to your beliefs. Pagan's are comfortable with their religious beliefs and happy with the freedom that comes from those beliefs. Happy to have an open mind to the world around them and just happy to be alive. They have no use for alternate belief systems that only wish to hamper and control them for fear of eternal suffering. So I am sorry but I don't think you will find many converts here.

Thank you for that too Lily, you make a very good point. I am not here to teach anyone anything mainly because a majority of the people here don't want to be taught. I am just here to learn myself from listening to others talk and see what it is they believe and why. I am also here to educate people on misconceptions I see them have.

Yes, I do see the terms "teach" and "educate" as different things. To teach someone something takes a lot of time, patience, and understanding on both parties levels. The person has to want to learn like you said. To educate is to although others to see there are two sides to every story. So when someone says that all pagans are devil worshippers, not everyone knows that is not true. So I am merely educating the people who have never heard of paganism before that they are not devil worshippers and they don't even have a concept of the devil or hell at all.

So like you Lily, I will gladly share the information and knowledge I have gathered and will do it with a smile on my face. Although I am not here to teach the religion to others.

Thanks Karma for the definitions as well but the big difference is that when I post stuff like this it is in response to a question that was asked or somebody saying something that just isn't true and I feel the need to correct them so that other people don't fall into the same misconceptions.

I never make a post saying that Paganism or Wicca is the best religion out there and we have all the right answers so if you want to be saved and not go to hell and live in eternal happiness you should drop your religion and come join us. We are the way to go. I just educate people when they ask questions, (Like people did in this post) or when they say something incorrect and without true knowledge to what they are talking about. (Like they also did in this post)

That is the difference between proselytizing and educating. I could care less if anyone out there drops their religion to become a pagan. Not like I am getting a commission bonus or anything. I am just educating those out there that don't understand.

Just because he was arrested multiple times does not make him a loon or a bad person. Take MLK, Jr. For example. How many times was he arrested for standing up for what he believed in and he was even doing it in the name of God. Good people are arrested all the time because other people don't understand them.

If he were a human with human feelings and emotions then definately. But that would play into his ego and Narcissism that I was talking about. Although the Christians on here say that he is a perfect God that is the ultimate being of kindness and forgiveness. The two concepts contradict themselves. He can't be this perfect God and also be that petty at the same time.

This I actually have to agree with you on. It is arrogant and foolish to believe that we are the most advanced form of life or energy on the planet or in the universe. Now I am not saying that that higher power is God or even multiple Gods. It could be a super intelligent and advanced alien race and all we are is a long standing experiment in a test tube. Or it could be a mass of energy forming up the right bout of chemistry to create life. Although I do agree that we are not the end all be all of life and energy.

You are probably right in the sense that the gripe originates from the bible and the supposed word of God. However you take on the gripe when you continuously talk down about the other religions you know nothing about. It's all fine and Dandy if the Biblical word of God wants to say that those who worship false gods are followers of satan or whatever it was that was written in all those years ago by the close minded people that contributed to the bible. Although while you are out there spreading the word of God, you assume any gripes we have with him because if we can't gripe at him directly, we can only go through the ones that claim to know his message.

So if you want to go around and speak about things you don't know or understand or have any interest in understanding that's fine. Although don't act so surprised that people are getting mad at you because of it. You say you have to laugh because people that know you know you keep it real, although I have to laugh because you can't keep something real if you don't understand it. You are basing all your judgements of other religions off of an egotistical and narcissistic God. Because only one with that big of an ego and bout of Narcicism would really be that upset that someone decided to worship a God other than him.

Even IF, and this is a BIG IF mind you. God descided to descend his way down here and sit with some guys and tell them what to write in the bible making it the "Word of God spoken through men" which I don't believe for an instant. But IF that were the case it is not true anymore. The bible has been through so many translations and people adding their own pieces. An old testament and a new testament. So the bible we have today would not be the word of god. It would be a man translated word of man who is supposedly speaking for God.

And you might be right. The religion very well might survive and even flourish without the Bible. Although that is all Tribo and I are asking. If their faith is that strong that the religion will survive they should have no problem getting rid of their bibles and stop running to them at every turn and spread the religion like they did in the beginning.

Also you are right, Quickstepper is a great example of someone who is very knowledgeable of Christian thought and living. So great an example infact that she refuses to learn anything about the other religions that she speaks so outwardly against. I know the Christian religion very well, I just don't follow it. She knows nothing about the pagans and the wiccans and the other religions that she detests. So no, I don't believe I will learn anything by listening to what she says as I am already well versed in Christianity as well and she refuses to learn anything about those she hates.

I know, thats the point I was trying to make. Although she claims to have proof and if that is true I want to see it.

Really? Beacuse if I remember right Tribo, and I, and a few other people on these forums ask for proof all the time but nothing other than bible scriptures are ever given. So if you have the proof then please give it to us so that we may see what you do. Although I suspect that the proof you have is nothing more than bible verses. Either that or you will rebut with the answer that we wouldn't listen anyway so why bother.

Either way I have yet to see this proof that I have been asking for.

True, but I still gotta try. I like to make people think. Sometimes you actually get through to someone and other times the looks you get on their faces are more than enough to make the effort worth it.

Good point Tribo and I probably should have made reference to that as well. the GLBT is spending their millions for a cause that is important to them and will help people all over america that are actually in need of help. The money the Christians are spending on billboards is being used to draw in people to the churches and used for conversion tactics. I think the money should be used for helping the poor and needy more since thats why they say they collect the money anyway. Instead of putting up 50 billboards why not open up another soup kitchen or buy some homeless people some new clothes and nice warm jackets?

LoL, yeah I don't do that too well. Ignorance is one of my biggest pet peeves and I feel it is my duty to "save" as many people as I can from Ignorance.

(Disclaimer: I am not saying religion is ignorance or any particular followings are ignorant. I am just saying ignorance in general)

Oh, was that what it was? Oh well, I didn't have a problem with that post staying or anything as long as I got to defend it. But whatever.

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XI (day 10) of the winter era

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