At this point I’m just tired. If there were at least some factual basis to the claims made by this crazed Bush hater I might enjoy the debate, but when if an argument is based on lies, ignorance and willful distortion…there is no debate.
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Is that a dig at black skinned ppl? If you disagree with the article then make your case. It's no more invalid then the rants you see on this thread calling Bush the devil.
no, that's a "look at how damn white i am, i couldn't possibly be anything but blindingly white". don't be a racist I hope you're not calling me a racist. If you disagree with the article then make your case. It's no more invalid then the rants you see on this thread calling Bush the devil. |
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I absolutely believe the article. You didn't address the content. I doubt you even read it. The rest of your comments are presumptions in ignorance. "AOL" in the link is irrelevant. Just concede you hate Bush and the article has merit.
dude, i read it. i could hardly contain the laughter it inspired. i do hate bush, i never said anything but. but i'd sooner concede that my skin is black before i agreed to that article having merit Is that a dig at black skinned ppl? If you disagree with the article then make your case. It's no more invalid then the rants you see on this thread calling Bush the devil. |
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Dallas Cowboy Fans
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The record-setting salary Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett will garner may not make owner Jerry Jones popular with his counterparts.
But his coach doesn't mind. Garrett is the league's highest-paid assistant, eclipsing the $2.6 million salary of Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and will make near the $3 million head coach Wade Phillips pulls in. Phillips says he's fine with that. |
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Go Dolphins !! I know I know...cant help it ...maybe one day again...in like 20 yrs sorry..carry on... |
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Democrats: Politics of Evil http://journals.aol.com/skip3366/TheMaverickConservative/entries/2008/01/16/democrats-politics-of-evil/3766 do you actually believe that dribble? cmon man, i almost laughed when i saw the link had aol in it. takes a bright person to get ripped off every month with absolutely no gain over the competitors I absolutely believe the article. You didn't address the content. I doubt you even read it. The rest of your comments are presumptions in ignorance. "AOL" in the link is irrelevant. Just concede you hate Bush and the article has merit. |
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to forgive a monster?????
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tomie...
I think the dragoness has retreated to her lair. But be assured she will return. It baffles me how ppl can claim to have compassion for unwanted children and yet support abortion. Those very same ppl are appalled at the death penalty. |
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Gcode... Yeah, that's it lol im just messing with you man nothing serious.. Whats going on? I was just getting over it and you had to bring it up again. |
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Gcode...
Yeah, that's it |
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http://www.mytown.ca/ev.php?URL_ID=121969&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201
Madisonman, is that so hard? |
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That did not make sense but I will assume you meant that I have compassion for the unwanted children and none for the unborn. Well you said it, the unborn. Once born you are here. Until then you are cells. That may sound cold and unfeeling but it is the truth. A child here now has priority. People yell and scream about abortion which, yes, I agree it is a horrid form of relief of an unwanted child but a woman should have the right to choose it if she finds herself pregnant with an unwanted child. It always comes back to this unwanted thing huh? Do you know how many men bail on their responsibility with children? Many. Do you know how hard it is as a woman alone raising children? Probably not. A woman ultimately ends up with the responsibility of the child. It should be her choice. I cannot take that from any woman. Using it as a form of birth control as portrayed, no it is not. Once a woman has one abortion she will not try to come back for another. I can guarentee you that. I have counseled women on this choice and they do not make it lightly. It still comes back to the unwanted children. Unwanted alive now in the world. They are all needing parents. Once there are no more unwanted children and it is a shortage of children to adopt in the system then we can worry about future unwanted children. Abortion is just a choice available. If you do not want her to have the abortion, start an organization that hands these women a good $100,000 to raise the child. If you can't do that then do not impinge on her right to choose. She will have to raise the child alone so it is her ultimately that should make the choice. This has nothing to do with an innocent on death row, absolutely nothing. Oh lord, I wrote a book again, sorry The woman that aborts the baby is no beter than the man that abandoned the pregnant woman. Two wrongs don't make it right. You say it is a womans choice..... Well until the Supreme Court repeals Roe v Wade, that is legally true. |
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A popular bumper sticker says, "We kill people to show people that killing people is wrong." The slogan is short, simple, and to the point. But is there really such irony in capital punishment as the slogan implies?
WORD GAMES First of all, the slogan misses an important point. The death penalty does not punish people for killing, but for murder. Killing is justified when it is done in self-defense. Killing means to cause death. Murder, on the other hand, is defined as, "the unlawful and malicious or premeditated killing of one human being by another" (for the less observant, this definition cannot be applied to the death penalty, because the death penalty is lawful, non-malicious, and is not carried out by an individual but by the government). "Kill," "murder," and "execute" are not interchangeable terms. Death penalty opponents would like us to believe otherwise. Just because two actions result in the same end does not make them morally equivalent. If it were so, legal incarceration would be equated with kidnapping, lovemaking with rape, self-defense with battery, etc. Therefore, the slogan is better stated, "We execute people to show people that murder is wrong." Not quite as catchy, is it? |
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If we execute murderers and there is in fact no deterrent effect, we have killed a bunch of murderers. If we fail to execute murderers, and doing so would in fact have deterred other murders, we have allowed the killing of a bunch of innocent victims. I would much rather risk the former. This, to me, is not a tough call.
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How exactly did this go from death penalty to abortion? that is two totally different subjects... If you would actually take the time to read the thread, you would know the answer to your own question. |
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Keep adopting brother there are alot. And then when that is done we can discuss legitimately the legality of abortion. No unwanted children worldwide is the goal. They are here, living unwanted, now. Future unwanted children should be an after thought. You claim no compassion for the unwanted childern of the world and you have none for the unborn? You are heartless & cruel. But by all means lets not kill anyone on dead row, hypocrite. |
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I am sorry, I will not address the abortion issue on this thread anymore, whoever that was that is calling me out on it. The death penalty is too definite to allow for mistakes and one can talk about the possible victims if the person walked the street again but we keep them for life all the time and they never walk the streets again unless found innocent by DNA. Our government cannot be condoned to kill innocents at any level. It is bad enough it is allowed in war. But to have a flawed justice system take a life of a wrongly convicted person should not be allowed. Not with the intelligence of our current society. It was expected in the past because we were ignorant humans and avenging was more animalistic. We are intelligents now, or at least I like to thing we are intelligents now. This is exactly why you can not seperate the abortion issue and the death penalty. You are so concerned about killing innocent people but the pro-choice ppl do not take that same stance about killing innocent babys. Both anti-death row and pro-choice ppl are mostly liberals. They contradict themselfs. Back we go, okay my stance on abortion, for those unknown, I don't want to hear one damn word against abortion from NOONE until ALL unwanted children in the WORLD are adopted. NOT one word. If you haven't adopted you have no rights to speak on who can have abortion, about illegality of abortion, about the moral issue of abortion, etc.... PERIOD! I have adopted so I say no abortions and the docs that perform abortions, get the death penalty. |
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I am sorry, I will not address the abortion issue on this thread anymore, whoever that was that is calling me out on it. The death penalty is too definite to allow for mistakes and one can talk about the possible victims if the person walked the street again but we keep them for life all the time and they never walk the streets again unless found innocent by DNA. Our government cannot be condoned to kill innocents at any level. It is bad enough it is allowed in war. But to have a flawed justice system take a life of a wrongly convicted person should not be allowed. Not with the intelligence of our current society. It was expected in the past because we were ignorant humans and avenging was more animalistic. We are intelligents now, or at least I like to thing we are intelligents now. This is exactly why you can not seperate the abortion issue and the death penalty. You are so concerned about killing innocent people but the pro-choice ppl do not take that same stance about killing innocent babys. Both anti-death row and pro-choice ppl are mostly liberals. They contradict themselfs. |
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She has some things going in her favor. It leads me to believe she has a good chance in this race. One is the bigotry against Obama and the second in Ron Paul splitting the republican vote if he runs as a 3rd party candidate. Well, that was almost, kinda, maybe a possilbe little bit of a consideration of support.....lol Just pulling your leg there. I understand some of the points against her. Alot of the people against her are judging her on Bill and this should not happen she stands alone. Yes, there are similarities as they are from the same party and same background ect... I happen to have liked Bill too, and felt he got a rotten deal with the Monica thing. I personally believe that in the presidential seat, sex should be allowed and as long as parties are of age and consenting, go for it. I was glad he was having sex. It is one of the great joys of being human. But that is the past. I have hesitations with Obama, I think it is his newness. I guess some would say that is a good thing in some ways. Not corrupt, etc... I just would like to have a little more experience especially with the folly of Iraq to deal with. Okay I am writing a book again My point was if the republicans can't unite on a single candidate and Ron Paul runs as a 3rd party candidate, the election will go to the democrates. I think there is too much bigotry today to give Obama the DNC nomination so it would go to Hillary and thus the presidency. I didn't say I liked it. Honestly, I don't see a dimes worth of difference between any of the democrat candidates. They have pretty much the same message. As for sex in the oval office.... Why not have an orgy? but not with Hillary She does not appeal to you at a sexual level then I take it Yes, I have seen from your other posts that you are a repub. I have never been and won't. I have seen too many racists join the bandwagon for the repubs. I also was raised around those type of repubs and it is ugly to me. The bush type repubs. No offense of course. I have so little respect for our sitting pres, I can barely stand it. He is so incompetent. But that is my opinion. I will say when Hillary first started hinting at her possible running, I was not an advocate. But I have since began to have a slight understanding of her. Plus, she is a b*tch and I admire that....lol Being a B*tch is not a qulification to be president. She has very little experience but then, the same can be said for Obama. Hillary wants to socialize health care... Do you understand what this means? Government ran programs are crap. She says she will withdraw the troops in Iraq but she can't. She knows she can't. But that's what you want to hear... so she lies and you believe. Read this link to understand why she can not withdraw the troops in Iraq. http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/24898 Bottom line, withdrawl from Iraq would be political suicide and you know she wants a second term. Give me a better reason than what you've already stated for voting for Hillary. Just being a woman, or to quote you, a B*tch, is not a logical reason. Respectfully to: Dragoness |
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I find double postings annoying.
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She has some things going in her favor. It leads me to believe she has a good chance in this race. One is the bigotry against Obama and the second in Ron Paul splitting the republican vote if he runs as a 3rd party candidate. Well, that was almost, kinda, maybe a possilbe little bit of a consideration of support.....lol Just pulling your leg there. I understand some of the points against her. Alot of the people against her are judging her on Bill and this should not happen she stands alone. Yes, there are similarities as they are from the same party and same background ect... I happen to have liked Bill too, and felt he got a rotten deal with the Monica thing. I personally believe that in the presidential seat, sex should be allowed and as long as parties are of age and consenting, go for it. I was glad he was having sex. It is one of the great joys of being human. But that is the past. I have hesitations with Obama, I think it is his newness. I guess some would say that is a good thing in some ways. Not corrupt, etc... I just would like to have a little more experience especially with the folly of Iraq to deal with. Okay I am writing a book again My point was if the republicans can't unite on a single candidate and Ron Paul runs as a 3rd party candidate, the election will go to the democrates. I think there is too much bigotry today to give Obama the DNC nomination so it would go to Hillary and thus the presidency. I didn't say I liked it. Honestly, I don't see a dimes worth of difference between any of the democrat candidates. They have pretty much the same message. As for sex in the oval office.... Why not have an orgy? but not with Hillary |
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