Wow can I live in your perfect little world. You obviously have no concept of war, and yes I said it WAR. Ive delt with your type before only in mass numbers, in DC none the less. You belive that everyone should live together in harmony. This wold will be fighting wars with each other untill one of two things happen, we kill ourselves off, or some alien race shows up from space, then we will brobly just start fighting with them.

You never came right out and said it but when you try to compare the torture that we do, which is on the very low end of the scale compared to the other countrys you named, to what the nazis did your putting them on the same platform. When the nazis started there genocide it wasnt a war. Again when you say that there is no difference between a small and a large loss of morality again that is putting things into that black and white world.

I never said that it was right for us to critisize other countrys about using torture and then turn around and do it ourself. Last time I know that made us hipocrites didnt it. But you are still trying to say that genocide and torture are the same thing. If this is what you truly believe then your views are very skewed.


Its almost 5am and im through argueing with people who cannot grasp that there is a nessecary loss of morality when it comes to war. The world is simply not black and white. It is a very blurry shade of gray. It always has and alway will be. Everyone that says there will be peace, and I mean true peace not a lul in the fighting, needs to wake up and smell the coffee. When the first caveman picked up a stick and killed another he awoke a beast that just simply cant be tamed.

Again with comparing to the nazi's. Your comparing thousands and thousands of people to tortureing one or two. Those are two different playing fields. There is a differece between torture and genocide. And yes the human race has fallen much lower than most people understand. And if you dont beleive that morality is not a player in war, just ask any soldier that has been in the thick of combat. jeanniebean you abviously dont understand the thinking of this enemy. They will dye for there god becouse they belive its what he wants and that they will be rewarded with virgians in heaven. Its fanatical devotion not despaire and hopelessness.

That'll make him forget about all his pain.

See if this was ment as a fact then you would have to swich the words marines and ranger. But as a joke its funny as is.

In short, most states laws are two lenient. Texas has it right. 21dui's and probation, c'mon people.

I have a perfect solution to the problem of the president. We hire a voodoo witch doctor to reserect teddy roosevelt. He was the last worthwhile pres. we had.

Thats just weird.

I was not going to get involved in this one untill I saw dragoness post that being put in a 8x8 cell is torture. Im sorry but didnt those use to be the deminsions of a jail cell untill they were reconfigured to 6x9. This was only done to save space alowing for more cells in a smaller area. The US constitution does not prohibit torture of pow's becouse the constitution is only meant to protect the rights of amaricans. Its called the US constitution not the world constitution. I dont expect for those who are on the aginst torture side of this conversation to listen to me so Ill only say one more thing. You speak of morality, but what you fail to understand is that when you are talking about a war aginst an enamy who considers it an honor to kill himself taking the lives of civilians, morality is no longer a player.

Does anyone find it a little disturbing that when we first wanted to go in and remove saddam the un was basicly saying, no no leave him alone yet now that we have removed the threat they are willing to go in and attempt to do their job. It's a little retarded that they only go in when they see fit, which seem to be after the job is done.

The problem is pulling out does not mean zero casualties it means thousands if not tens of thousands of casualties. These casualties on the other hand will be civilan, not military. If we pull out now then one terrorist leader or another will hit not only targets in iraq but america as well and as said before we will be right back over there.

Political ethics... isnt that like military intelagence, or the phrase cold as he*ll in short no such thing

did you know that at last count (which i think was a couple of years ago) mickey mouse was the top write in vote.

this may be true that they dont get the same amount of social interaction as a child in public school but it has been proven that children who are home schooled do better in there work.

toche'

indianajoans, I would like to offer my condolances for you son. As for what the veteran did in the video...HELL YEA. For those who say what he did this wrong, last time is checked as mentioned earlier in the post, it is international law that no nations flag is to be hung above anothers.

You see madman theres one thing about buisness you need to learn. You dont interprate data. Financial data must be calculated exactly to have any usefullness. When the figures say 1-2 trillion you cant say three to make it look better for your argument. Want proof, deposit 200 in the bank and try to withdraw 300. Then when they say you cant you can tell them that you interpreted the amount as 300. We'll see how far that gets. And as far as saying that we have wasted our childrens future becouse of this war. Which would you rather have our kids grow up in. A world with high gass prices or a world where you have to wonder if were going to have a n/c/b missile shot at us. Couse' gess what thats what this war has prevented. I dont like the war, and we need to pull out when the time is right but now is not the time. I bleieve it was you that said that one of the people that worked on these figures won a nobel pize for basicly working with numbers. When you say you are interprating the figures you are basicly saying you can figure this out getter than him.

Im sure that other presidents have danced. There just werent any cameras around. If you want to be imbaressed about somthing that he did, think back to about a year ago when he used the word usetacould on live TV. Any word that can be found in the redneck dictionary should not be used in public speaking.