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Wed 08/01/12 03:17 AM

I have a war in Iraq to sell both of you


The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and everything to do with Saddam's failure to comply with UN resolutions.


You mean he wouldn't get rid of the Weapons of Mass Destructionhe didn't have and everyone on the Planet knew he didn't have.

You can do better that surely?

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Wed 08/01/12 02:36 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Wed 08/01/12 02:47 AM


This reality we live in is a complete and utter illusion and all that you think you know is not true.




So you cannot tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
But I can. Sources of information can be checked. Reality is a
matter of factual description and not a matter of mere opinion.

:smile:



You are the one that said and I quote "verifiable observations and enquiry and cross checking of a free and open press"

Now if that is not the best joke of this thread then I will Become POTUS..

It is so funny I feel no need to add ROTFLMAO Emoticons.


A FREE AND OPEN PRESS

I am Laughing My Arse Off


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Wed 08/01/12 02:24 AM


They are still in the process of rewriting history.
WHO are THEY?

All those people who are trying against all odds to find out the truth about 911 for starters.

There is nothing wrong with questioning ones Government, in fact I think it was Einstein that said "To Question was a healthy pursuit" or words to that effect.

If you believe the official story of 911 that is your prerogative.

We who question are entitled to do so as often as we care to do so.

It is up to Governments to allow access to all information, after all government are made up of people like you and me.

Do You believe the Official Story of 911.?

Yes or No?

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Tue 07/31/12 11:32 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 07/31/12 11:34 AM
Back on Topic

In the past, there was a small leisure class and a larger working class.


The leisure class enjoyed advantages for which there was no basis in social justice;

this necessarily made it oppressive,

limited its sympathies,

and caused it to invent theories by which to justify its privileges.

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Tue 07/31/12 10:56 AM


Lete have a seaweed bath instead:angel: drinker drinker drinker



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Tue 07/31/12 10:45 AM


Its not worth arguing about anymore.

There are not very many people left who believe the official account of 9/11.

We may never know what really happened exactly.




Lete have a seaweed bath :angel:



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Tue 07/31/12 10:36 AM
I shall not dwell upon the fact that, in all modern societies outside the USSR, many people escape even this minimum amount of work, namely all those who inherit money and all those who marry money. I do not think the fact that these people are allowed to be idle is nearly so harmful as the fact that wage-earners are expected to overwork or starve.

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Tue 07/31/12 10:09 AM
Bertrand Russell was Before His Time

When I was a child, shortly after urban working men had acquired the vote, certain public holidays were established by law, to the great indignation of the upper classes. I remember hearing an old Duchess say: 'What do the poor want with holidays? They ought to work.' People nowadays are less frank, but the sentiment persists, and is the source of much of our economic confusion.

Bertrand Russell

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Tue 07/31/12 09:51 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 07/31/12 09:53 AM

Florence and The Machines-Dog days are over


I Like Florence mainly because my son knows her.



You Got The Love

Sometimes I feel like throwing my hands up in the air
I know I can count on you
Sometimes I feel like saying "Lord I just don't care"
But you've got the love I need To see me through

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through

When food is gone you are my daily need
When friends are gone I know my savior's love is real
You know it's real



http://bit.ly/N8V0Ar

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Tue 07/31/12 09:00 AM
She's got her ticket
I think she gonna use it
I think she going to fly away
No one should try and stop her
Persuade her with their power
She says that her mind is made
Up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCwpeyM_FGs&feature=related

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Tue 07/31/12 08:39 AM
I love this from The Essay.

How clear and simple does Russell explain WORK.


First of all: what is work?

Work is of two kinds:

First, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter;

Second, telling other people to do so.

The first kind is unpleasant and ill paid;

The second is pleasant and highly paid.

The second kind is capable of indefinite extension:

There are not only those who give orders, but those who give advice as to what orders should be given. Usually two opposite kinds of advice are given simultaneously by two organized bodies of men; this is called politics.

The skill required for this kind of work is not knowledge of the subjects as to which advice is given, but knowledge of the art of persuasive speaking and writing, i.e. of advertising.



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Tue 07/31/12 04:58 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 07/31/12 05:29 AM

Sorry you will have to wait till tomorrow. I am going to bed. But I shall be pondering whether this could work as only a western concept or global concept Laugh you mischievious irishman all you wish. But we kiwis always laugh more. :tongue:


It's good to laugh...sleep well and ponder wisely

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Tue 07/31/12 04:28 AM

same Attitude!

http://mises.org/daily/6038/DeadTree-Luddites

Besides,who will pick up the Tab?
Will be real Fun producing as much Goods as before in eight Hours,so the Balance isn't disturbed!laugh

http://mises.org/daily/6073/Is-Greater-Productivity-a-Danger



Your opinion in your own words please.

I promise I will not Laughbigsmile

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Tue 07/31/12 04:23 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 07/31/12 04:24 AM

To get the whole article of Bertrand Russel's concept you just have to google his name with 'In praise of idleness' and wallah, you can form your own opinion.bigsmile


I provided the link above your post.bigsmile

Wux has asked for your opinion.

I would like to hear your and other opinion.

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Tue 07/31/12 04:13 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 07/31/12 04:50 AM
The morality of work is the morality of slaves, and the modern world has no need of slavery.

In Praise of Idleness

By Bertrand Russell

[1932]---->

Link to The Essay----> http://www.zpub.com/notes/idle.html

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Tue 07/31/12 03:55 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 07/31/12 04:54 AM


Reading the whole argument may change your mind. I dont understand why OP's only post fragments? It changes the whole concept of the whole.


I like a woman who reads. What's Russell mean, when he says he distrusts efficiency? That is interesting to hear. I see nothing wrong with efficiency, esp. for those who enjoy having accomplished the completion of a task, as opposed to those who enjoy the process more than having finished their work.

So... please, somebody, like for instance you, ladywind (topical name in the breezey thread elsewhere on this forum) what's Russel's beef with efficiency?


Hi wux,

I am a kinda new to the forums.... That is, those that are outside of the political type.

I will try and attempt to answer your question.

Modern technology has created mass unemployment as people are no longer required to produce goods.

We can produce food in abundance, housing in abundance etc etc with very few people involved.

Most of the unemployed have not been told that they will never again be in paid employment and are not prepared for their free time.

I remember this being discussed many years ago [leisure time] but those that could do something about it didn't bother.

It looks like the solution to the problem today is to get rid of the useless eaters as they are called.

That is my opinion of Russell's opinionlaugh drinker

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Mon 07/30/12 04:16 PM
Another critical view of the 9/11 story came from Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, a former
official in the German Defense Ministry, and an advisor to the former NATO General
Secretary, Manfred Woerner. Koeppl told Mike Ruppert: “The interests behind the Bush
administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for
David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberger group, have prepared for and are now moving
to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens.” (From the Wilderness, November 6,
2001)


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Mon 07/30/12 04:02 PM
Listen easy,
You can hear God callin'
Walkin' barefoot by a stream
Come unto me
Your hair softly fallin'
On my face as in a dream
And the time will be our time,
And the grass won't pay no mind
Sayin' nothin', lyin' where the sun is
Bakin' down upon our sighs
My lips touch you
With their soft wet kisses,
Your hands gentle in reply
And the time will be our time,
And the grass won't pay no mind
Child, touch my soul with your cries
And the music
Will know what we've found
I'll hear a hundred goodbyes,
But today I hear only one sound
The moment we're livin' is now
Na, na, na, na
Young bird flyin'
And a soft wind blowin'
Cools the sweat inside my palms
Close my eyes
And hear the flowers growin'
As you lay sleeping in my arms
And the time will be our time,
And the grass won't pay no mind
No, the grass won't pay no mind



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TWctTMg1l4&feature=BFa&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CN7T_Usv3vQKEPghmv83hL

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Mon 07/30/12 03:55 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Mon 07/30/12 04:08 PM

The "gold" metals for the Olympics are larger and heavier than they have ever been but they are made of 92.5% silver, 6.16% copper and 1.3% gold.

With the price of gold at $1621.00 per oz. and silver at $28.11 (give or take a little)

I'm not all that surprised.grumble

But they should stop calling them "gold metals" now.




You probably haven't heard the story of some gold bars having been discovered to be filled with tungsten.

The Drilled Gold Bars Filled With Tungsten

http://silverdoctors.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/tungsten-filled-1-kilo-gold-bar.html


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Mon 07/30/12 03:53 PM



You need to be a US citizen to vote, but not to have an opinion. What the US does often affects the globe.

You don't know our voting system very well.
You can be dead and give an address of a vacant lot and vote.
No way!


That happens in many countries but it doesn't amount to a bag of beans in the scheme of things.