As far as Iran and violence..........



"The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today" and note that "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death."

Rev. Martin Luther King.


He was as is well known Talking About The United States his own country.


That man should have been listened to and The World would have been a better place but NO we still have morons believing that our governments are acting in our best interests.

NO THEY PHUCKING AIN'T

The Rich Have Got Their Channels In The Bedrooms Of The Poor

There is A Mighty Judgment Coming But I may be Wrong

What a waste of a reply.

Turkey has been co-operating with the US............Fact

The US is in bed with Israel........................Fact

Bush &t he Saudi's in business for years.,,......,,,,,Fact

Divide and conquer tried and tested.................Fact


They divide by religion/race/ and "countries".......Fact

corporations move forward and make business
deals and divy up the world amongst the eilite......Fact

All of the above can be dealt with in the context of The Future of Syria so why don't you show a little respect for other peoples opinions and offer a decent reply.....or none

Iran accused the US yesterday of pursuing its own interests in the Middle East.

"America's technique for interfering in internal affairs of countries has changed," a foreign ministry spokesman said. "Instead of entering into expensive and long wars, they support the fostering of civil wars in the countries they are interested in."

- Hadeel Al Shalchi in ALEPPO

I am out of here.

I read back and counted the posts.

Of the 197 posts you Jeannie and I account for 179,

Hotrod 74

Jeannie 67

Opto 38

Conrad 11

Smart 06

Leigh 01

Your statement of get out of this thread or words to that effect and let the rest of us discuss means nothing because there is no REST OF US.

Take Jeannie out of this thread and you are on your own.

Just give us your own opinion in your own words.

It is not a matter of life or death

How more accurate and simple can it be?


That is it in a Nutshell

It would be nice to have another opinion but I agree with you.

This demeaning of members seems to be a common trait among a few regulars on here.

It beats me why people do not use their own words to express their opinions.


One liners seems to be the order of the day.

Militia group forms as cracks appear in Syrian rebel front

The Muslim Brotherhood has established its own militia inside Syria as the country's rebels fracture between radical Islamists and their rivals, commanders and gun-runners have revealed.

Calling itself the Armed Men of the Muslim Brotherhood, the militia has a presence in Damascus as well as opposition hotspots such as Homs and Idlib.

One of the militia's organisers, who called himself Abu Hamza, said that he started the movement along with a member of the Syrian National Council (SNC), the opposition alliance.

"We saw there were civilians with weapons inside, so we decided to co-operate with them and put them under one umbrella," he said.


http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/militia-group-forms-as-cracks-appear-in-syrian-rebel-front-3189588.html

Oh, it's carnival night and they're stringing the lights around you
Hanging paper angels, painting little devils on the roof
Oh the furnace wind is a flickering of wings about your face
In a cloud of incense yeah, it smells like Heaven in t
his place

I can't eat, can't sleep, still I hunger for you when you look at me
That face, those eyes all the sinful pleasures deep inside

Tell me how, you know now, the ways and means of getting in
Underneath my skin, oh you were always my original sin
And tell me why, I shudder inside, every time we begin
This dangerous game, oh you were always my original sin

A dream will fly the moment that you open up your eyes
A dream is just a riddle, ghosts from every corner of your life
Up in the balcony all the Romeo's are bleeding for your hand
Blowing theater kisses reciting lines they don't understand

I can't eat, can't sleep, still I hunger for you when you look at me
That face, those eyes all the sinful pleasures deep inside

Tell me how, you know now, the ways and means of getting in
Underneath my skin, oh you were always my original sin
And tell me why, I shudder inside, every time we begin
This dangerous game, oh you were always my original sin

Tell me how, you know now, the ways and means of getting in
Underneath my skin, oh you were always my original sin
Tell me why, I shudder inside, every time we begin
This dangerous game, oh you were always my original sin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXupnbWEsFw&feature=share

It beats me why they bother.

Fight for Aleppo

The Syrian military has been steadily building up its forces around Aleppo, massing large numbers of tanks and other armoured vehicles as well as troops, in preparation for a much more intense attack, says the BBC's Richard Galpin on the Turkish border.

There is already fierce fighting in and around the city as troops try to push rebel forces out from southern and eastern districts.

The army is using tanks to try to break its way into the districts of Salah al-Din and Saif al-Dawla, which lie on the main road into the city, opposition sources say.

Latest News


Damascus has been taken back and 20,000 Syrian troops are lining up to take back Aleppo.

It just goes to show how much attention you pay to these threads,


You said " and let the rest of us discuss the events in Syria without constant interruptions"

The Rest of Us?????????????????????????????????????

Check out the 10 pages of this thread and tell me who the rest of us are.

You keep trying to control these threads with threats of reporting.

These are public forums.

Now don't be silly and enjoy the craic.

I can see myself posting from this site until The New POTUS enters the whitehouse ,by then I shall be ready for retirement. There is only so many laughing heads one can look at without becoming totally bored." Sad Very Sad" as an OLD ADVERSARY of mine used to say.

Going to spend sometime talking to My Favourite American now.

I will be back To-Morrow.

I Promise

I have now attracted The Full Compliment

World War I & the Balfour Declaration

Unlike some wars, most analysts consider WWI a pointless conflict that resulted from diplomatic entanglements rather than some travesty of justice or aggression. Yet, it was catastrophic to a generation of Europeans, killing 14 million people.

The United States joined this unnecessary war a few years into the hostilities, costing many American lives, even though the U.S. was not party to the alliances that had drawn other nations into the fray. This even though Americans had been strongly opposed to entering the war and President Woodrow Wilson had won with the slogan, “He kept us out of war.”

Americans today are aware of these facts. What few know is that Zionists pushed for the U.S. to enter the war on Britain’s side as part of a deal to gain British support for their colonization of Palestine.

From the very beginning of their movement, Zionists realized that if they were to succeed in their goal of creating a Jewish state on land that was already inhabited by non-Jews, they needed backing from one of the “Great Powers.”They tried the Ottoman Empire, which controlled Palestine at the time, but were turned down (although they were told that Jews could settle throughout other parts of the Ottoman empire and become Turkish citizens).[31]

They then turned to Britain, which was also initially less than enthusiastic. Famous English Arabists such as Gertrude Bell pointed out that Palestine was Arab and that Jerusalem was sacred to all three major monotheistic faiths.

Future British Foreign Minister Lord George Curzon similarly stated that Palestine was already inhabited by half a million Arabs who would “not be content to be expropriated for Jewish immigrants or to act merely as hewers of wood and drawers of water for the latter.”

However, once the British were embroiled in World War I, and particularly during 1916, a disastrous year for the Allies,[33] Zionists were able to play a winning card. Zionist leaders promised the British government that Zionists in the U.S. would push America to enter the war on the side of the British, if the British promised to support a Jewish home in Palestine afterward.

Zionists Promised The British Government They Could Get The American Government To Enter The War...That was way back then...Little Wonder The USA is in The Position it is in Today..LOL

As a result, in 1917 British Foreign Minister Lord Balfour issued a letter to Zionist leader Lord Rothschild. Known as the Balfour Declaration, this letter promised that Britain would “view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people” and to “use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object.”

The letter then qualified this somewhat by stating that it should be “clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.” The “non-Jewish communities” were 90 percent of Palestine’s population at that time, vigorous Zionist immigration efforts having slightly expanded the percentage of Jews living in Palestine by then.

The letter, while officially signed by British Foreign Minister Lord Balfour, was actually written by Leopold Amery, a British official who, it came out later, was a secret and fervent Zionist.

While this letter was a less than ringing endorsement of Zionism, Zionists considered it a major breakthrough as it cracked open a door that they would later force wider and wider open.

These Balfour-WWI negotiations are referred to in various documents. For example, Samuel Landman, secretary of the World Zionist Organization, described them in a 1935 article in World Jewry:

“After an understanding had been arrived at between Sir Mark Sykes and [Zionists] Weizmann and Sokolow, it was resolved to send a secret message to Justice Brandeis that the British Cabinet would help the Jews to gain Palestine in return for active Jewish sympathy and for support in the USA for the Allied cause, so as to bring about a radical pro-Ally tendency in the United States."

British Colonial Secretary Lord Cavendish, in a memorandum to the British Cabinet in 1923, reminded his colleagues: “The object [of the Balfour Declaration] was to enlist the sympathies on the Allied side of influential Jews and Jewish organizations all over the world… and it is arguable that the negotiations with the Zionists…did in fact have considerable effect in advancing the date at which the United States government intervened in the war.”

Former British Prime Minister Lloyd George similarly referred to this deal, telling a British commission in 1935: “Zionist leaders gave us a definite promise that, if the Allies committed themselves to giving facilities for the establishment of a national home for the Jews in Palestine, they would do their best to rally Jewish sentiment and support throughout the world to the Allied cause. They kept their word.”

American career Foreign Service Officer Evan M. Wilson, who had served as Minister-Consul General in Jerusalem, writes that the Balfour declaration “…was given to the Jews largely for the purpose of enlisting Jewish support in the war and of forestalling a similar promise by the Central Powers [Britain’s enemies in World War I]”.

In 1917 President Wilson, who had been voted into office by Americans who believed his promises that he would keep them out of the war, changed course and plunged the U.S. into a tragic and pointless European conflict in which hundreds of thousands were killed and injured. [bOver 1,200 American citizens who opposed the war were rounded up and imprisoned, some for years.

The influence of Brandeis and other Zionists in the U.S. had enabled Zionists to form an alliance with Britain, one of the world’s great powers, a remarkable achievement for a non-state group and a measure of Zionists’ immense power. As historian Kolsky states, the Zionist movement was now “an important force in international politics.”

‘We must work silently, through education and infection’

An early recruiter explained: “An organization which has the aims we have must be anonymous, must work silently, and through education and infection rather than through force and noise.” He wrote that to work openly would be "suicidal" for their objective.

Grose writes: “The members set about meeting people of influence here and there, casually, on a friendly basis. They planted suggestions for action to further the Zionist cause long before official government planners had come up with anything. For example, as early as November 1915, a leader of the Parushim went around suggesting that the British might gain some benefit from a formal declaration in support of a Jewish national homeland in Palestine.”

Brandeis was a close personal friend of President Woodrow Wilson and used this position to advocate for the Zionist cause, at times serving as a conduit between British Zionists and the president.

In 1916 President Wilson named Brandeis to the Supreme Court. Although Brandeis officially resigned from all his private clubs and affiliations, including his leadership of Zionism, behind the scenes he continued this Zionist work, receiving daily reports in his Supreme Court chambers and issuing orders to his loyal lieutenants.

When the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) was reorganized in 1918, Brandeis was listed as its “honorary president.” However, he was more than just “honorary.”

As historian Donald Neff writes, “Through his lieutenants, he remained the power behind the throne.” One of these lieutenants was future Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, another particularly well-regarded justice, and another whose Zionist activities have largely gone unnoted.

Zionist membership expanded dramatically during World War I, despite the efforts of some Jewish anti-Zionists, who called the movement a “foreign, un-American, racist, and separatist phenomenon.”

You are more than welcome.


There is so much more to come

The State Department Objects

Unlike politicians, State Department officials not dependent on votes and campaign donations, and charged with recommending and implementing policies beneficial to all Americans, not just one tiny sliver working on behalf of a foreign entity – were less enamored with Zionists, who they felt were trying to use the American government for a project damaging to the United States. In memo after memo, year after year, U.S. diplomatic and military experts pointed out that Zionism was counter to both U.S. interests and principles.

Secretary of State Philander Knox was perhaps the first in the pattern of State Department officials rejecting Zionist advances. In 1912, when the Zionist Literary Society approached the Taft administration for an endorsement, Knox turned them down flat, noting that “problems of Zionism involve certain matters primarily related to the interests of countries other than our own.”

Despite that small setback in 1912, Zionists` garnered a far more significant victory in the same year; one that was to have enormous consequences both internationally and in the United States and that was part of a pattern of influence that continues through today.

Louis Brandeis, Zionism, and the “Parushim”

In 1912 prominent Jewish American attorney Louis Brandeis, who was to go on to become a Supreme Court Justice, became a Zionist. Within two years he became head of the international Zionist Central Office, which had moved to America from Germany a little while before.

While Brandeis is an unusually well known Supreme Court Justice, very few Americans are aware of the significant role he played in World War I and of his connection to Palestine.

Brandeis recruited ambitious young men, often from Harvard, to work on the Zionist cause – and further their careers in the process. Harvard author and former New York Times journalist Peter Grose, sympathetic to Zionism, writes:

“Brandeis created an elitist secret society called the Parushim, the Hebrew word for ‘Pharisees’ and ‘separate,’ which grew out of Harvard’s Menorah Society. As the Harvard men spread out across the land in their professional pursuits, their interests in Zionism were kept alive by secretive exchanges and the trappings of a fraternal order. Each invited initiate underwent a solemn ceremony, swearing the oath 'to guard and to obey and to keep secret the laws and the labor of the fellowship, its existence and its aims.'”

At the secret initiation ceremony, the new member was told:

"You are about to take a step which will bind you to a single cause for all your life. You will for one year be subject to an absolute duty whose call you will be impelled to heed at any time, in any place, and at any cost. And ever after, until our purpose shall be accomplished, you will be fellow of a brotherhood whose bond you will regard as greater than any other in your life–dearer than that of family, of school, of nation."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GLwA4P3QDk