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Wed 09/10/14 08:17 AM

is there a passport check to verify nationality when they pick these people up? who has organized to pick them up?

who is organizing for the day care?

who is paying for their lunch?

are whites in the area barred from participating in such programs when they cannot afford them?

Native americans are bound to contracts called TREATIES< cause, well, it was the price paid to take their crap from them,,,,

casinos are probably not significant payment for what they would have had or what they rightfully should get out of the deal

all foreigners come here and get tax breaks,, not just arabs
the price for wanting to be globally competitive


I do remember Rodney king,, my read, people were sick of black peoples lives not seeming to be valued BY THE LAW,, Rodney was a last straw in a string of incidents where blacks were brutalized or killed with little consequence,,,


when you have rights that i dont, that is discrimination. the factories organise all that... probably because most whites wont get off thier couches and work for minimum wage. i know i wont...I dont leave the shop in a service van for less than 100.00 anymore.

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Wed 09/10/14 08:11 AM
not r dirt, just the facts maam. also I agree that we havent had a 'good president" in ages. Certainly not in my lifetime. however, to say "everyone else is doing it" is not an excuse. tax breaks for the rich? Ever had a job from a poor person? EVERYONE needs a tax break. i would call that a START. I WOULD START BY CUTTING EVERY TAX BY 50 PERCENT.., It has been proven historically that the lower the taxes the better the economy, and ultimetly the more money they make. Taxing the rich is a form of communism, " a heavy and PROGRESSIVE" Income tax is one of the 10 planks. there should be a flat tax, the same for everyone. If we want to point fingers at other presidents for our current mess, i would start with Clinton..,he started the "fair trade" thingy which is now why all our factories and thier secure, hi paying jobs are overseas and everyone works at mcdonalds. There are very few craftsman out there anymnore..., I cant find anyone who either wants to work or is able to do said work. I could be running about 12 service vans right now if i could staff them. everyone with college educations are working poart time because employers cant afford to compete with china and also provide obama care. Shall i continue? signed, i must be racist for saying all this.

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Wed 09/10/14 08:02 AM




Its reverse discrimination. Frankly im suprised my post wasent blocked when i said that a lot of blacks are recially biased..... usually you cant cry racism if your white. (EXPECIALLY A WHITE MALE.) its for everyone else. When i graduated from school in '79, i could have had a job with michigan parks dept. The problem was they HAD to hire a black. They already had thier lesbian, thier mexican and thier native american..., The job went unfilled for three years because at that time there was one (1) black family in this area.
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quotas are illegal,, UNLESS There is a legal injunction as a RESULT of proven discrimination,, if your company HAD to hire a black, its because they were proven to discriminate against them and the fact of not having black applicants would have easily prevented such proof from happening,, so maybe you didn't know all the facts when you chose to believe it was 'just' because you are white,, and the job wasn't filled because of 'no blacks in the area'


but, ya know,,, if you really believe white folks have a disadvantage because they are overlooked for jobs due to race,,, that's a perception , we all have them

the job was for the State of Michigan, back when womens lib,ect. was really thick and there were a lot of quotas that didnt make sense at that time. ( in this area where there as literally no one to fill these quotas) Also i know that there are sometimes different tests for college entrance exams depending on race..., how is that fair to me? how is that fair to an employer who expects someone to be "equally qualified". ?
I know of a lesbian back in the day who, if she wanted a promotioon, would accuse her boss of sexual harassment. back then they didnt question her, they just took her word as fact and fired the superviser. Seen it too many times. reverse discrimination is alive and well today also...



the ignorance of others is an issue they need to resolve

STate jobs cannot have quotas , if it could be proven , it could be litigated and won


it is likewise not legal to give applicants to a college a DIFFERENT test based upon race,, if and when that is true, it is a prosecutable offense

I don't know what 'equally qualified' means, in this discussion

employers never have been legally required to hire underqualified applicants, though, throughout history they certainly have found ways to do so for family members, and family of friends,,,fellow schoolmates children,,etc,,,




they most certainly DID HAVE QUOTAS BACK THEN...
OH and you bring up another good point. .. I have a case against the State police for brutality, filing false reports, coorecing witnsses ect. EVERY law firm i have talked to about this tells me the same story: if i were anything but a white man i would have a multi million dollar lawsuit. No one wants to see a white man yelling foul. Never gonna go anywhere. i have come to accept this truth.

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Wed 09/10/14 07:56 AM
There are several factories near here, that if you are a mexican, they will send a bus to pick you up, they will provide day care, pay for thier lunch, ect..., but not for the whites. .... ?
Native americans can fish and hunt anywhere, pretty much anytime in michigan. They can also own casinos.
The arabs come here and open stores, because they get a tax break when they open a business.
Mabe its payback for back in the day, huh?
Remember rodney king and the riots? was it really race related? my read is that it was more that people were sick of police brutality... but it always gets painted as a race issue.

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Wed 09/10/14 07:48 AM


Its reverse discrimination. Frankly im suprised my post wasent blocked when i said that a lot of blacks are recially biased..... usually you cant cry racism if your white. (EXPECIALLY A WHITE MALE.) its for everyone else. When i graduated from school in '79, i could have had a job with michigan parks dept. The problem was they HAD to hire a black. They already had thier lesbian, thier mexican and thier native american..., The job went unfilled for three years because at that time there was one (1) black family in this area.
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quotas are illegal,, UNLESS There is a legal injunction as a RESULT of proven discrimination,, if your company HAD to hire a black, its because they were proven to discriminate against them and the fact of not having black applicants would have easily prevented such proof from happening,, so maybe you didn't know all the facts when you chose to believe it was 'just' because you are white,, and the job wasn't filled because of 'no blacks in the area'


but, ya know,,, if you really believe white folks have a disadvantage because they are overlooked for jobs due to race,,, that's a perception , we all have them

the job was for the State of Michigan, back when womens lib,ect. was really thick and there were a lot of quotas that didnt make sense at that time. ( in this area where there as literally no one to fill these quotas) Also i know that there are sometimes different tests for college entrance exams depending on race..., how is that fair to me? how is that fair to an employer who expects someone to be "equally qualified". ?
I know of a lesbian back in the day who, if she wanted a promotioon, would accuse her boss of sexual harassment. back then they didnt question her, they just took her word as fact and fired the superviser. Seen it too many times. reverse discrimination is alive and well today also...

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Wed 09/10/14 07:38 AM



rambill, I presume most people have racial bias, black and white

racist doesn't mean terrible person, it means product of a racially divisive and segregated history and environment


yep, both blacks and whites and most other americans also have an implicit racial bias,, study after study have shown it

try not to take it too personally

this does not mean that EVERY decision and choice and perspective will be DICTATED by that inherent bias,, many people aknowledege it and work hard to inspect their perceptions and ideas to try to keep that bias from affecting it

but its not an easy task,, and if one is in the minority, it is particularly damaging to them as a group for the majority to unsuccessfully fight that bias,,,,


n mabe i live a sheltered life, but i dont see that here, when i was a kid.., YES. i DONT KNOW ANY WHITES THAT DONTLIKE oBAMA BECAUSE OF HIS SKIN PIGMENT, , although i am sure there are some...,I have always judged a person by thier actions. I do know a lot of blacks, and pretty much every one pulls out this race card whenever someone critisizes Obama. I would really like to see them come up with a better argument than that. Anyone who critisizes Obama is a racist, or they are misinformed, or they are swayed by the press, or its bush's fault. everything but where the problem really is.
I also wish Condalisa Rice would run for pres.., here is a candidate who is qualified, and black, and a woman. ( not that i care about the last two, but so many cant get past it.



how do you know why people feel what they feel rambill? because they may not openly discuss a bias, doesn't mean its not there.. heck , most people aren't even aware of their racial bias,,,,,,

blacks, as a group, 'pretty much ' have a historical reason to suspect that race is a factor in why OBama is scrutinized over the TYPES of things he is scrutinized over, particularly if they SEEM to be things other presidents have done without the same level of scrutinization


especially when he STARTS out his historic presidency with baits about how he is muslim, or not really American and his colleagues vow to make their SOLE job to obstruct him


many black folks would likewise like to see people come up with better arguments as to why they insist this President has set some historical precedent in terms of his mistakes or intentions


why they have singled him out as 'worst', when they cant come up with much of anything that he has done differently than those who came before him


when they have claimed he wants to 'ruin' the country , take away their freedoms, have a welfare state,,,,etc,,,,,,,it SEEMS like a singular and exceptional attack on THIS president


, but that's a matter of personal perception and priorities,,


anyone that questions peoples motives, is somehow 'worshipping' the Presdent, anyone that questions the complaints or supports the President is seen as doing so simply because of his race and their being 'misinformed'

so that works both ways


would you consider the possibility that race is in fact NOT the issue here? Also he doesent 'want" to ruin the country, He IS ruining the country. the damage he has done with foreign relations is immense. we havent even touched on immigration or guns here. Can you address issues? for example.. how did cash for clunkers help anyone but the car dealers? what am i missing? how anout this exectutive order which will double the price of electricity? how is that good? which chess move am i missing?
How does running up a debt that my grandchilderen will be paying for help? signed confused.

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Wed 09/10/14 07:35 AM
Its reverse discrimination. Frankly im suprised my post wasent blocked when i said that a lot of blacks are recially biased..... usually you cant cry racism if your white. (EXPECIALLY A WHITE MALE.) its for everyone else. When i graduated from school in '79, i could have had a job with michigan parks dept. The problem was they HAD to hire a black. They already had thier lesbian, thier mexican and thier native american..., The job went unfilled for three years because at that time there was one (1) black family in this area.

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Wed 09/10/14 07:27 AM
my longest gf was 6'1. lol

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Wed 09/10/14 07:26 AM

Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Replenish -
v. verb
To fill or make complete again; add a new stock or supply to.
replenish the larder.
To inspire or nourish.
The music will replenish my weary soul.
To become full again

Now I understand translation from language to language are never "precise". So I got the notion to bring this discussion up. Just strikes me funny "replenish" is used at the "creation" of the world. I understand some translation use different words such as "fill the Earth" in the English Standard version and probably other's. But that's from a translation of a translation. Anyways lol, my point is. As far as I know, the bible never refers to "dinosaurs". And we all know dinosaurs and man could never have lived on the planet at the same time. So my thought was, the dinosaurs were here, then they died however they died out "the how they did is moot to the topic". But do you think this is said that way because the dinosaurs roamed the planet, then God had to basically "remake" the planet so to speak to be suitable for man? And God did throw Satan to the Earth to crawl on his belly.

Genesis 3:14

14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

I understand it says "serpent" and not specifically Satan. But it was the serpent that tempted and we all know who tempts us to Sin. So think maybe Satan and his following angels were thrown to the ground as dinosaurs so to speak, till their physical being died off?

Please don't take me wrong lol, this is just speculation, thought, idea, brain storming kind of stuff. Not saying anything is specifically true bout this idea of a theory lol. Just food for thought.

Everyone talks about the antichrist, or satan, but anything that is NOT of God is of satan. There is a scripture that says pretty much that, not that i know where it is.

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Wed 09/10/14 07:20 AM

rambill, I presume most people have racial bias, black and white

racist doesn't mean terrible person, it means product of a racially divisive and segregated history and environment


yep, both blacks and whites and most other americans also have an implicit racial bias,, study after study have shown it

try not to take it too personally

this does not mean that EVERY decision and choice and perspective will be DICTATED by that inherent bias,, many people aknowledege it and work hard to inspect their perceptions and ideas to try to keep that bias from affecting it

but its not an easy task,, and if one is in the minority, it is particularly damaging to them as a group for the majority to unsuccessfully fight that bias,,,,


n mabe i live a sheltered life, but i dont see that here, when i was a kid.., YES. i DONT KNOW ANY WHITES THAT DONTLIKE oBAMA BECAUSE OF HIS SKIN PIGMENT, , although i am sure there are some...,I have always judged a person by thier actions. I do know a lot of blacks, and pretty much every one pulls out this race card whenever someone critisizes Obama. I would really like to see them come up with a better argument than that. Anyone who critisizes Obama is a racist, or they are misinformed, or they are swayed by the press, or its bush's fault. everything but where the problem really is.
I also wish Condalisa Rice would run for pres.., here is a candidate who is qualified, and black, and a woman. ( not that i care about the last two, but so many cant get past it.

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Wed 09/10/14 07:13 AM


Racism is taught, and plenty of people in the USA were not taught racism.
Sadly, some people are taught to see and hear racism where there isn't any.


racial bias has been taught to MOST americans, if they have any interaction with media or public education on a regular basis


some people are determined to be blind to the racism others see, and deaf to the racism other people hear , when it is there,,,


some have no reason to have to see it or believe it is real,,,

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Tue 09/09/14 11:14 AM


well, MOST have racial bias

yeah. i agree. Most blacks today do have a racial bias. If i disagree im a racist, whatever mountain of facts i throw around is irrelavent. Im wrong because im not Black.
ALSO DONT CARE ABOUT PLATITUDES, theories as to who is out to get him, ect. i cAN FIND PLENTY OF TRUTH AMMO on the news every night and in my daily work but yet they believe in him. why? because he is the first black president and they will support him no matter what the facts are.

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Tue 09/09/14 11:03 AM
Edited by rambill79 on Tue 09/09/14 11:05 AM

Obama, has to do things...subtly.

Were Obama to try and be straightforward and all-American brash and dashing...they would set him up real nicely.

With that in mind, you will not realize the brilliance of his presidency until long after he's gone.

He has to say one thing, and then conceal things until the time is right.

Like if he were to announce a plan to get all Americans healthcare..entire industries would start to change regulations overnight to thwart him.

Therefore, you are looking at a master, playing chess.


Brilliance? brilliant prople dont run up more debt in six years thAan every other president combined, or trade someone who should be in levenworth for several hi level enemy operatives.., or, get caught lying to the public again and again, or running the country by exectutive orders, ect ect. he is in fact inept and the whole world knows it. ask around. sanctions and strongly worded letters? really? he reacts day to day instead of having a plan in advance for things that wouldent have happened in the first place if he hadent been stupid and tried to pull us out of iraq. The military people knew that, tried to tell him that, but touchy feely trumps facts every time with this guy.
in regards to putin and russia, over there leaders are expected to be STRONG. VIRILE. Putin is a black belt. he swims accross the lake. he likes to shoot. he will never respect this spinless marshmello who reacts instead of being on the offensive. He will continue to take full advantage of his "kindness", which he sees as weakness.
Most of this info is not from me it is from someone whose name you might recognise. I do have friends in the govt in VERY high PLACES. HOWEVER, I CAN SEE IT JUST FINE FROM THE BLEACHERS WITHOUT THEM
Do you know that when Obama is on a military base ( and not at the golf course) he is afforded the most basic of protocall, just what the law requires and nothing more. They HATE the man. People are dying because of his "brilliance". Obama wouldent know how to put the chess pieces back in the box after the game is over.

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Tue 09/09/14 10:49 AM
Wow did i clear that one up? ....that not everyone WHO doesent like Obama is a racist? That there are plenty of color blind reasons to be more than a little concerned?
This whole business of everyone who dont like him being a racist was wearing really thin about two weeks into his presidency. "you people" need to get over that one and try to find an argument that makes sense.

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Sun 09/07/14 06:21 PM
Edited by rambill79 on Sun 09/07/14 06:30 PM
.. then res the urea tanks on the new trucks..., Whats that about? I know a row of truck drivers that say when that is mandatory they will retire and sell thier trucks. Middle class to poor.
Now he is doubling the price of electricity? how does that help poor people?
There is also legislation to make it illegal to heat with wood. didya know that?
I simply cant find qualified technicians. everyone works at mcdonalds now or is on welfare. Welfare pays about 40,000/yr if you figure it out.., i cant pay that for a new technician. I see the effects of his inmcompetence daily in my work.
Im not talking racism, platitudes , gossip or idle speculation about he sad he was, ect. im looking at hard verifiable facts. Not seeing a competant leader at best and at worst, someone who is doing damage that will be felt for generations.
oh i forgot its all bush's fault. sorry.

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Sun 09/07/14 06:11 PM
I have always paid my own medical bills. the last time was 12,000 for kiney stones and kidney stone accessories. Now if i dont pay for health care i dont want, they will attach it to my income taxes, and if that dont work, they will then attach it to my property taxes. anyone read that fine print on "affordable healthcare".
"WE NEED TO PASS IT SO WE CAN SEE WHATS IN IT" Who said that?

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Sun 09/07/14 06:02 PM
Edited by rambill79 on Sun 09/07/14 06:06 PM



Now, getting back to defending President Obama ...

Folks, President Obama, like his predecessors, is used as Scapegoat-in-Chief for things that he has no control over.

Also, for some strange reason, people in the USA tend to expect the POTUS to wave a magic wand and produce instant results.


... scapegoat in chief? He is getting blamed for everything he has done. wahhhh. He is commander in chief? correct? who else should we blame? A LEADER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS UNDER HIS WATCH. soryaboutit.
he said about twenty differnt times how he was going to get us pout of Iraq, then the other day when someone asked him about that, he said something like.. " Do you really think it was my decision to leave IRAQ.? " These 'types" expect us to NOT do our homework, rather we are expected to use our emotions, touchy feely versus facts and history.


Some people expect the POTUS to be able to do things that the POTUS cannot legally do. Such expectations happen no matter who the POTUS is.

i dont have a clue what you are talking about. what i am talking abouit is someone running the place by executive order, trillions in debt, everyone working part time or not at all, trading someone who abandoned thier post for several hi level operatives, "strongly worded letters to putin, " ill close Guantonomo, ill get us out of iraq,", " If you like your health plan you can keep your health plan,", kneeling before foreign dignetaries..,
shall i continue for about three more pages or am i racist?
The man is a marksist communist! cmon!

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Sun 09/07/14 05:58 PM

#1
Standard Precautions
Start being OCD about hand washing.

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Sun 09/07/14 05:53 PM
Edited by rambill79 on Sun 09/07/14 05:56 PM

Now, getting back to defending President Obama ...

Folks, President Obama, like his predecessors, is used as Scapegoat-in-Chief for things that he has no control over.

Also, for some strange reason, people in the USA tend to expect the POTUS to wave a magic wand and produce instant results.


... scapegoat in chief? He is getting blamed for everything he has done. wahhhh. He is commander in chief? correct? who else should we blame? A LEADER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS UNDER HIS WATCH. soryaboutit.
he said about twenty differnt times how he was going to get us pout of Iraq, then the other day when someone asked him about that, he said something like.. " Do you really think it was my decision to leave IRAQ.? " These 'types" expect us to NOT do our homework, rather we are expected to use our emotions, touchy feely versus facts and history.

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Sun 09/07/14 05:49 PM
the only way i found out about the cats was from a friend who's husband has a transplant... i asked an emt buddy, als want to talk with his mother..

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