OMG, I can't believe you went there about the sheep

Two weeks? For perv WEEK? Hmmm, maybe a little remediation in counting is in order

It actually does take freedom of choice away, Daniel. That's something I don't think you fully appreciate. It is still telling people you can choose, but you can ONLY choose things that I (I meaning the government) approve of. There are many who would go these routes, anyway. But, it is still taking the REAL freedom away, the freedom to choose your life without interference by anyone. Giving people a handful of choices still boils down to choosing for them.

This is true. In times of war or when enlistment is way down, the military may overlook (or waive) some past criminal action. But at most times, any kind of criminal record will make you ineligible to serve.

Agrees with Mikey and Phuque, welcome to Mingle

Sure excuses excuses

I'm just kidding. I just really wanted to make sure I had everyone's e-mail addresses right, I know at least one is wrong. But Pam's the only one who answered so I'm just doublechecking with everyone else.

That IS a good price

Then what would all those college degreed enjineers do for a living? Drive a Taxi?


Actually, I know quite a few people who have degrees who aren't working in their "field." For many, right now, it's the economy. For many, it's a choice. They found that what they trained for wasn't what made them happy so they do something else.

That's the beauty of this country, freedom of choice. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Who are we to tell anyone else what would make them happy? And if they aren't hurthing anyone, whose business is it? And, if everyone WAS college educated, who exactly would do those jobs that are necessary in this society that many/most "educated" people would feel were now beneath them?

And, again, who exactly pays for all this? College isn't free. (I realize this may have been addressed but again, I didn't read as I didn't want to get bogged into the negative?) If people are going to be forced into college, why should they have to pay for it? Of course, that would mean higher taxes.

And, Daniel, you didn't address the issue of communism? When the government starts deciding who does what, with no freedom of individual choice, that is one of the main components of communism. China does it. The USSR did it. And everyone was up in arms about it. Why is your proposal any different?

You know, that's a perspective I hadn't thought of. Yes, I would tend to agree with you there.

Yeah, been there going through that with Steve. I just wanted to make sure I had everyone's e-mails right but no one answered me

Geez, Daniel, take a pill or something, no need to get so irate. I was responding to your original post. I didn't bother reading many of the responses because your attitude, well, frankly, sucked, you were rude and obnoxious to those asking simple questions (as you just were to me). Yes, I don't doubt that there was "rudeness" on both sides, which is why I didn't bother reading the back and forth insults.

FYI, Daniel, I am highly educated, both formally and informally. I have been reading since I was 3, reading at college level since I was in the 5th grade, scored perfect scores on my SATs and ACT, scored out of freshman and sophomore level English classes when I was in college. So, therefore, I don't believe the problem is with me. Whether you choose to admit it or not, you are either not explaining your theories well or there are holes so big in them that you simply CAN'T defend them without going on the offensive. Either way, I see this is a communication problem at your end.

Do not EVER call me stupid again or even imply it.

Hiya ((Mikey)))

How's everything, I haven't seen you in a while. Did you get the e-mails I sent you on Monday?

When's your surgery?

This country is about free will and having the freedom to choose what is best for you. What you say smacks of communism. Communist countries choose for their people what they do for a living, what they study in school, how many children they can have, what they're allowed to think and say etc. Frankly, if I have to live my life (or God forbid, my child has to live his life) by your criteria, I will most happily get the hell out, as would most people.

And who decides the definition of productive, you? By your definition, I am not productive. I never served in the military and neither will my son. I didn't finish my degree. Yet, I've been working and paying taxes since I was 15 (working without paying taxes since I was 11). I pay taxes, I vote, I'm a responsible person and a responsible parent. I've been a foster mom. I'm active socially and politically. Yet, by your standards, I am not productive? Really, just how insulting did you intend to be by this?

Really, Daniel, I expect better of you.

I think we all know this. However, I think it was the picture with the gun, with the 9/11 date, that got people's head in a certain (and hopefully erroneous) direction. But, there's plenty of terrorism going on in India, Pakistan and the rest of Asia as well.

Awww my ((Sis))), things will smooth out, they always do! Love to you and yours always

Actually, the age of consent in California in 1976 was 14, she was 2 weeks before her 14th birthday. Yes, still illegal.

For her own sake and to get rid of her own notariety (I think I spelled that wrong), she has requested that the court impose the sentence that was part of his original plea bargain, which was no jail time. I think in a case like this, the victim's wishes need to be taken into account. Everyone agreed at the time that the best thing for the victim was for things to die down quietly with no more publicity than was necessary. The judge didn't agree (which is within his rights). Hence, this whole mess started.

Is he and should he be above the law? No, of course not, no one should. But, has justice for his victim truly been served? She is the only who can answer that and for 30 years she has been saying No, it has not. She and her family and children are stalked by the media and papparazzi, she is forced to relive over and over again something that should have become part of her past 33 years ago. Is that justice? And, for 33 years, he has lived an exemplary life, that should count for something. If he was out in the world raping, killing, maiming and pillaging, that would be one thing. But he has not. I think that totality of circumstances need to be taken into account, most particularly the wishes of the victim.

I just checked your profile, you're 18 and already worried about dying alone? That's part of the problem, perhaps, desperation is hardly attractive. Nor is the gun photo, it's rather disturbing. And having a photo with your arm around a pretty woman, rightly or wrongly people would make the assumption that she's either a current or former girlfriend. Too many issues either way on that one.