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Just my opinion, based on my studies of history, but I think this is one of those "It's both and neither" kinds of things. That is, the reason why the "war to end all wars" fantasy that is mentioned in the Bible is set in Meggido, is because that particular area saw war after war after war, during the time when most of the stories there were written. Meggido was situated in the crossroads of all the contending Empires and kingdoms of the day. It was the best place to use to "foretell" the End Of The World War, because everyone back then would hear, and say "Oh, well of COURSE it will go through Meggido. So this prediction makes sense." In modern times, since no one ACTUALLY wants the end of the world, the idea of Armageddon is more of a religious or spiritual idea that people like to use as a sort of bogeyman to dangle in front of their own faces. As a prophecy, it suffers from the same great problems that all Biblical prophecies do. One, most of the "prophecies" were actually rewrites of past legends, designed to make it APPEAR that what was happening later had been foretold, by "adjusting" the names and places and facts, to make it fit what actually did happen later. Almost. Second, the Bible itself declares prophesying to be a "bad thing" for REAL believers to indulge in, primarily because of the ever present problem of "false prophets" predicting things and leading the "flock" astray. That is why this debate is all about. Remember what Paul say in Ephesians 6:10-17. You have to choose which side you are. What the world teached or what the Bible teached. In Matthew 24 Jesus is saying about rumours of war. But the rapture theory teaches about a WORLD war 3 in Israel. Do you know why? Because the rapture theory has put everybody minds, on literal Israel so that they has forget that they are spiritual Israel. And many don't even know that my friend. Israel is not GOD chosen nation any more. Now all Christians who accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour is Israel Spiritual. We are now the seed of Jesus. I hope, my friend now that you let only MASTER JESUS guide you. Written like a 'true believer'. What if I choose neither side? |
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Reality is all the stuff you experience in life and it doesn't care what you super-impose on it to make your own sense of it all. It doesn't matter if its the Bible, the Necronomicon or The World of Warcraft. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it reality. Reality is just reality. It doesn't have passion or foreboding. Those are entirely personal aspects people assign to reality to cope. Reality is harsh and sharp. It persists even when we don't want it to. Its in the moment, every moment, whether we can handle it or not. Most people can't. They twist their perceptions of reality to fit they're own agendas, or the agenda of the belief system they adopt. Then they try to live in the future or past, based on those beliefs, instead of embracing the reality in the moment of now. They substitute reality, when they can, to fit those beliefs. Then they ignore reality when it doesn't. Reality exists whether they can justify it or not because, well, its reality. Umm, I am very aware of the symbolism of Armageddon. I also understand the symbolism of the Rapture. I choose not to be influenced by them. Yes, you read that right. I believe God is the entire Universe. I don't subscribe myself to religion. I attempt to embrace reality. Therefore, any forecast of anything is nonsense to me. If you find comfort in the threat of the end, go for it. If you find comfort in the Bible or Koran, go for it. I happen to find comfort in the reality before me and require no justification. When you quote scripture or promote religion I can accept that. Why can't you accept me? I'm with you on this Tom. Well said! |
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Reality is all the stuff you experience in life and it doesn't care what you super-impose on it to make your own sense of it all. It doesn't matter if its the Bible, the Necronomicon or The World of Warcraft. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it reality. Reality is just reality. It doesn't have passion or foreboding. Those are entirely personal aspects people assign to reality to cope. Reality is harsh and sharp. It persists even when we don't want it to. Its in the moment, every moment, whether we can handle it or not. Most people can't. They twist their perceptions of reality to fit they're own agendas, or the agenda of the belief system they adopt. Then they try to live in the future or past, based on those beliefs, instead of embracing the reality in the moment of now. They substitute reality, when they can, to fit those beliefs. Then they ignore reality when it doesn't. Reality exists whether they can justify it or not because, well, its reality. Umm, I am very aware of the symbolism of Armageddon. I also understand the symbolism of the Rapture. I choose not to be influenced by them. Yes, you read that right. I believe God is the entire Universe. I don't subscribe myself to religion. I attempt to embrace reality. Therefore, any forecast of anything is nonsense to me. If you find comfort in the threat of the end, go for it. If you find comfort in the Bible or Koran, go for it. I happen to find comfort in the reality before me and require no justification. When you quote scripture or promote religion I can accept that. Why can't you accept me? |
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Edited by
mich111111
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Tue 03/13/18 11:46 PM
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Just my opinion, based on my studies of history, but I think this is one of those "It's both and neither" kinds of things. That is, the reason why the "war to end all wars" fantasy that is mentioned in the Bible is set in Meggido, is because that particular area saw war after war after war, during the time when most of the stories there were written. Meggido was situated in the crossroads of all the contending Empires and kingdoms of the day. It was the best place to use to "foretell" the End Of The World War, because everyone back then would hear, and say "Oh, well of COURSE it will go through Meggido. So this prediction makes sense." In modern times, since no one ACTUALLY wants the end of the world, the idea of Armageddon is more of a religious or spiritual idea that people like to use as a sort of bogeyman to dangle in front of their own faces. As a prophecy, it suffers from the same great problems that all Biblical prophecies do. One, most of the "prophecies" were actually rewrites of past legends, designed to make it APPEAR that what was happening later had been foretold, by "adjusting" the names and places and facts, to make it fit what actually did happen later. Almost. Second, the Bible itself declares prophesying to be a "bad thing" for REAL believers to indulge in, primarily because of the ever present problem of "false prophets" predicting things and leading the "flock" astray. That is why this debate is all about. Remember what Paul say in Ephesians 6:10-17. You have to choose which side you are. What the world teached or what the Bible teached. In Matthew 24 Jesus is saying about rumours of war. But the rapture theory teaches about a WORLD war 3 in Israel. Do you know why? Because the rapture theory has put everybody minds, on literal Israel so that they has forget that they are spiritual Israel. And many don't even know that my friend. Israel is not GOD chosen nation any more. Now all Christians who accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour is Israel Spiritual. We are now the seed of Jesus. I hope, my friend now that you let only MASTER JESUS guide you. |
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Reality is all the stuff you experience in life and it doesn't care what you super-impose on it to make your own sense of it all. It doesn't matter if its the Bible, the Necronomicon or The World of Warcraft. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it reality. Reality is just reality. It doesn't have passion or foreboding. Those are entirely personal aspects people assign to reality to cope. Reality is harsh and sharp. It persists even when we don't want it to. Its in the moment, every moment, whether we can handle it or not. Most people can't. They twist their perceptions of reality to fit they're own agendas, or the agenda of the belief system they adopt. Then they try to live in the future or past, based on those beliefs, instead of embracing the reality in the moment of now. They substitute reality, when they can, to fit those beliefs. Then they ignore reality when it doesn't. Reality exists whether they can justify it or not because, well, its reality. |
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It is both..yet it is neither... 
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Edited by
mich111111
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I I do believe armies or dictatorships will arise up to abolish any type of following of God and be defeated. yes This is mine war a spiritual one. Satan is the master deceiver, like Jesus says in Matthew 24. Do you see the problem of the trinity and rapture doctrine!!! Non are biblical but the most Christian in the world believed in a rapture theory. And also putting date and years. What about the spiritual issue!! My friend is time to wake up. GOD IS CALLING HIS PEOPLE, TO GET OUT OF BABYLON!! The war is against TRUE worshipers. Satan is very angry with me, because I know all His plans. Why because my war is against him and his demons. I hope that you will think about this. When you are waiting for the war. You will see that the man of sin (POPE) and the governor of USA. Then you see on your screen. ONE WORLD ORDER AND ONE RELEGION. The day you see this, if you don't see the spiritual effects, you will remember me. I hope it is not to late. |
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Where I can find it. MEGIDDO — Situated at the foot of Israel's Mount Megiddo in the Valley of Jezreel on the Plain Esdraelon. "Mount" Tel Megiddo is not actually a mountain, but a tell (a hill created by many generations of people living and rebuilding on the same spot) on which ancient forts were built to guard the Via Maris, an ancient trade route linking Egypt with the northern empires of Syria, Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Megiddo was the location of various ancient battles, including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC. Modern Megiddo is a town approximately 25 miles (40 km) west-southwest of the southern tip of the Sea of Galilee in the Kishon River area in Israel. ~ wiki And Armageddon is named after a battle field called Meggido. It depends on who you ask |
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Where I can find it. MEGIDDO — Situated at the foot of Israel's Mount Megiddo in the Valley of Jezreel on the Plain Esdraelon. "Mount" Tel Megiddo is not actually a mountain, but a tell (a hill created by many generations of people living and rebuilding on the same spot) on which ancient forts were built to guard the Via Maris, an ancient trade route linking Egypt with the northern empires of Syria, Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Megiddo was the location of various ancient battles, including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC. Modern Megiddo is a town approximately 25 miles (40 km) west-southwest of the southern tip of the Sea of Galilee in the Kishon River area in Israel. ~ wiki Is World War 2 Spiritual or Literal? Armageddon is a war. World War 3 is a war. They are both fantasy until they happen. |
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I I do believe armies or dictatorships will arise up to abolish any type of following of God and be defeated. |
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Where I can find it. MEGIDDO — Situated at the foot of Israel's Mount Megiddo in the Valley of Jezreel on the Plain Esdraelon. "Mount" Tel Megiddo is not actually a mountain, but a tell (a hill created by many generations of people living and rebuilding on the same spot) on which ancient forts were built to guard the Via Maris, an ancient trade route linking Egypt with the northern empires of Syria, Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Megiddo was the location of various ancient battles, including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC. Modern Megiddo is a town approximately 25 miles (40 km) west-southwest of the southern tip of the Sea of Galilee in the Kishon River area in Israel. ~ wiki |
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I I do believe armies or dictatorships will arise up to abolish any type of following of God and be defeated. |
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Where I can find it.
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The most denominations I have talk to is saying that it is a literal war that will occurred in Israel. Is that true? Do the Bible day that? Let us hear it!!
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Topic:
Bible Prophecy
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Jesus says everything in Matthew 24. My friends there will be many people we are unprepared also the Christians who are waiting for the rapture. Many people eyes is on literal issues and the have forgot the spiritual matter. And no body will listen to the spirituality of what the Bible reached. And God says to worship in spirit and true. The appearance to be spiritual, but their focused on Israel literal. And that is the deception of Satan. To take people eyes out of the spiritual way. The TRUTH.
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Edited by
mich111111
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Sat 03/10/18 10:56 PM
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The Seventh day Adventist also keep the Sabbath rest of God. That's why they can preached the everlasting gospel.
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Topic:
Right priorities
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All you have to do is give you all to Jesus. Nobody can do not for changed them self. You must keep God commandments and follow Jesus. That is the Faith of Jesus.
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Topic:
The Three Angels Message
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The Three Angels Message is given to the special chosen God's people to preached it to the world. There's so many denominations that can't understand the book of Revelation. My friend the time has come for the TRUE Christians who are seeking for the TRUTH. Jesus is calling to get out of Babylon. Is time to search for the remnant church. God true worshipers.
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Topic:
The Remnant Church!!
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So many Christians here and till today no one as answered this question. WoW!! Amazing, so difficult questions to debate of!!
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Topic:
sign or mark of the beast.
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My friend I understand you. But nobody is free to do what they want and also believed in God. If you have knowing the Bible good the you also can shown people where to find the truth. Thanks that you have remind me, that this part is for everyone. Now I can defend my faith much better. My believing is completely from the scripture and I lives through the scripture. Now let me go to the scripture. Do you have a bible if is yes,than open it and read what Paul says. And also the lady who has here loving your words. Go to Galatians 1:1-10. You can read the rest when you have understand what Paul says. Let me go now I'm the old testament. What did God says to Moses when the people has make a golden calf? They says that they are free. But God says NO. He has given them his commandments. And still today the law stay. And it will stay till Jesus return. So if you are not a Christian just let the Christians with their believes and you keep talking about your believes. We real Christian die for our faith,the one who kill us is not the people itself,but the demons in them. We died preaching the gospel. If you are a Christian follow the words of God BIBLICALLY. I am muslim. According to my belief, Jesus did not die, he came to the heavens and will return when the time comes. and judge justice, people will be happy. //// Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, David and Adam These are the prophets, the messengers of Allah. but God is not, because people can not be God. Adam and Eve are our parents. they are all beautiful people ... they want our good ... that's all ... @ |
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