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Fri 01/22/10 05:18 AM



if i wasent treated like a human being. i wouldnt be in the relationship with that person...

huh huh


let me help. as i said again. its hard for a woman to respond to this because its not someothing that you have experienced before.

the thing is, you are being treated like a human being. but the woman is acting as if she isnt even tho her man is treating her normally. so how can the woman be happy when she is thinking negativly when shes being treated like everyone else.


if the lady is thinking negative and used to be treated like a human wouldnt, you think that all her part relationships were negative and abusive and all she is used to is that..


yes true. or is it that shes unappreciative of whats right in front of her

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Fri 01/22/10 12:24 AM

if i wasent treated like a human being. i wouldnt be in the relationship with that person...

huh huh


let me help. as i said again. its hard for a woman to respond to this because its not someothing that you have experienced before.

the thing is, you are being treated like a human being. but the woman is acting as if she isnt even tho her man is treating her normally. so how can the woman be happy when she is thinking negativly when shes being treated like everyone else.

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Fri 01/22/10 12:20 AM

Dont understand the question,,,does the man not believe she is normal and only treats her AS IF she is? Perhaps a woman might want to be treated special instead of 'just normal' ?


no, you are over thinking it. its hard for a woman to understand this question because this is something that women do not experience.

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Fri 01/22/10 12:20 AM


I have a question, How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being


Oh now THAT is hilarious....LMFAO!!!!

DAMN good question, dude!!drinker


its very clear that only a guy can really interpret what this means. a woman will have trouble seeing the question because its focus is on a womans actions towards a man.

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Fri 01/22/10 12:17 AM
its a question that a guy can only understand I see. lol

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Thu 01/21/10 09:51 PM
I have a question, How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being

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Tue 01/19/10 10:07 PM
all in all. the reality.
god was invented to explain mystery.... when you finally discover how something works, you dont need him anymore. but you need him for the other mysteries. so therefore you leave him to create the universe because we havent figured that out yet. and to explain consciousness...stuff like that.

I think its much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which MIGHT be wrong. I dont feel frightened by being lost in a universe without any purpose, which is the way it really is as far as I can tell

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Tue 01/19/10 09:00 PM

then Atheists aren't protected under the 1st Amendment. It's like having your cake and eating it too. Doesn't work that way. Either they are and they get the protection to assemble and such under the Constitution or they don't.

If they aren't a religion then the Supreme Court was wrong and the Atheist prisoners didn't have the right to gather to discuss their beliefs.

I don't agree because I think they do have the right to assemble just like any other religion.


the only way atheisim can be a religion like chritianity if there was a god we believed in. and had rules

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Tue 01/19/10 08:29 PM

here is an article about an Atheist church near me in Dallas

http://www.acfnewsource.org/religion/atheist_church.html

A 'Church for the Unchurched' provides community and moral support without God.



atheists isnt a religion, its not on the same foundation as chrisitanity or islam, or anything. its a belief yes, but its not a mythical belief based on something that similar to a organized religion. you know the difference between the two, they are clearly not the same, not even the same origin. the ONLY similarity is that they are a belief. thats about it.

and with as many differnet churches. that should tell you something right there. a church divided is no church at all.

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Tue 01/19/10 08:24 PM



The Supreme Court ruled that Atheism is a religion as well. Atheists have a belief that they follow as well as churches.




organized religion infact does not include atheists.

I contend we are both atheists, I just belive in ONE fewer god than you do. when you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.


It doesn't bother me whether you dismiss my beliefs. They are my beliefs. I'm only speaking of my beliefs...I'm not telling you that you are wrong for not believing as you do.

Atheists churches aren't organized religion?


well iam not telling you you are wrong either.
so you believe wha you believe so what makes you anymore right than someone of a different religion. you cant ignore it. you cant just simply hide away. in your eyes hes going to a hell for not beliving what you believe and same thing in his head. he thinks your going to hell for not believing in what he believes. how does that work. in reality from me looking on the outside it just looks like 2 people disagreeing with something and the issue isnt going anywhere. with that just being said I dont understand how people can just continue on. Religion contradicts itself, because there are so many different ones and people just continue with the same thinking pattern.

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Tue 01/19/10 08:13 PM

The Supreme Court ruled that Atheism is a religion as well. Atheists have a belief that they follow as well as churches.




organized religion infact does not include atheists.

I contend we are both atheists, I just belive in ONE fewer god than you do. when you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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Tue 01/19/10 08:07 PM

Religion is a bad influence on people.

The concepts of religion are made to appear for the greater good but they are not.

They are divisive, create superiority complexes, make people do evil things in the name of god, etc...

Lots of issues with the effects of religion on man.


exactly my point.

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Tue 01/19/10 07:59 PM


1 Million Muslims dead because of this man who was helped to be installed by god people. Thanks. Palin next? Yeah right, point is that with "values" voters we seem to repeating the same sordid history of chaos...Stalin, Hitler, and now the Neocons used religion but you can't just blame them as much as you should also blame the sheep who fall in line and obey.

Bush Talks about Crusade on Sep 16-2001

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsjgjM56HRw










so either Obama is just as evil because of his religion or not all that are religious are bad.



i wouldnt say hes evil. hes being controled by someone more powerful than he is. this is a corperate world. money controls people and companies.

obama gets orders from the men incharge at the federal reserve. they are the ones who creates the currency for the entire nation. they control what happens in the country. not the president. the president enforces the laws, not make them.


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Tue 01/19/10 07:54 PM

my question is this....who supports our President??? he is Christian. so does that mean he is a danger because of this?


that answer is yes. a big danger. i say that because he uses his belief upon others to influnce for his own benefit. he has the majority of black people on his side because of him being black and because he can talk about god also, thats a plus for religious people. the more people on his side, makes it a hella lot easier for him to accomplish things.

what i mean by accomplishing things i am talking about the "north american union" which is the merging of unitedstates, mexico and canada.
or look up the amero its the new currency for the North american Union. its a lot of stuff.

why is "in god we trust on money" its all manipulating

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Tue 01/19/10 07:49 PM




personally (and I can only speak for myself) it really depends on what is being said. I can't think of a religion that advocates these
nearly all religious people hear voices in their head. its not just one. and I am just saying. people believe what they hear esp when its comming from a unknown voice in the back of their head. and it doesnt always has to be an extremist. I can see an extremist being a pastor or a bishop, that is up in age, they may take things to extreme, but for the people that listen to them, they hear things in their heads also.


as long as it doesn't effect me or my loved ones or breaks the law...then let them.

I don't like discussing my personal beliefs because they are my beliefs and not really up for debate. Just as your beliefs are yours.

I don't see why it has to be a war between beliefs. as long as it doesn't effect me, let it be. When it does effect me or my loved ones, then I have a right to do what I need to do (within the law of course)
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that statment alone is the problem with society. as long as it doesnt effect you, you are willing to allow it. but its not all about you or your family. its about the human race as a whole. we all have to live together. nothing is different between you or me, or barack obama, or my neighbors cousin or your anyone. we all come from the same place and end up in the same place. as long as people see themselves separate from others we will never get anywhere. and thats what religions do, its what culture does, it keeps people divided. thats why you have wars, thats why you have hatrate. thats why, do you see now.


no...it's is because I believe in the right for other's to have freedom of religion.

Never said it was about me and my family but I can't make others think or believe the way I want them to. I can only take responsibility for myself and I'm protective of people.

You are completely misreading what I have said. I don't believe in shoving my beliefs down other peoples throats and I can't control others.

that does NOT mean I don't care about others!!!!!!


as long as it doesn't effect me or my loved ones or breaks the law...then let them----- it does effect you because if it didnt then we wouldnt be having this conversation. so without the religion there, there wouldnt be a war of belief...

When it does effect me or my loved ones, then I have a right to do what I need to do ------ and what is that? cause harm? try to push back their belief with yours? thats showing indivisualium.

the fact of the matter is, everyone can not get along with religion present. its impossible. as long as its there, it will effect you, me and everyone else.

you say you dont know why, I am tryn to explain to you why lol its because of whats into being now.

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Tue 01/19/10 07:37 PM


personally (and I can only speak for myself) it really depends on what is being said. I can't think of a religion that advocates these
nearly all religious people hear voices in their head. its not just one. and I am just saying. people believe what they hear esp when its comming from a unknown voice in the back of their head. and it doesnt always has to be an extremist. I can see an extremist being a pastor or a bishop, that is up in age, they may take things to extreme, but for the people that listen to them, they hear things in their heads also.


as long as it doesn't effect me or my loved ones or breaks the law...then let them.

I don't like discussing my personal beliefs because they are my beliefs and not really up for debate. Just as your beliefs are yours.

I don't see why it has to be a war between beliefs. as long as it doesn't effect me, let it be. When it does effect me or my loved ones, then I have a right to do what I need to do (within the law of course)
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that statment alone is the problem with society. as long as it doesnt effect you, you are willing to allow it. but its not all about you or your family. its about the human race as a whole. we all have to live together. nothing is different between you or me, or barack obama, or my neighbors cousin or your anyone. we all come from the same place and end up in the same place. as long as people see themselves separate from others we will never get anywhere. and thats what religions do, its what culture does, it keeps people divided. thats why you have wars, thats why you have hatrate. thats why, do you see now.

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Tue 01/19/10 07:33 PM

Frank2bad, I am impressed.

Such intelligence in one so young. No insult intended.

When I see this type of intelligence in the younger generations it gives me great relief and hope for our world.

Keep it up, you may have already surpassed those who are stuck in the old not so healthy ways.flowerforyou

As for the OP, I too am one who has seen the damage that religion has done in people's self responsibility. Seeing the reality of their world is almost impossible with religion. Seeing the wrongness of the religion is almost impossible if they believe the religion because it is set up so that no blame falls back where it belongs.

Using god as the reason to do the evils of ones own mind is still no excuse. Like those who say that people's suffering is "deserved" at any level because of god. Sick Sick Sick.


thank you. I appreciate it a lot. I really hope this world does change. it needs to. and money nor religion nor politicians make this world better. its technology that makes it better and soon as enough people realize that, we will start to live better. I do hope to make a difference. but its going to take time. the Idea structure for religion isnt bad, but it does more harm than good simply because the people in power is taking advantage of it. ugh its all so sickning.

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Tue 01/19/10 07:26 PM



it wouldnt be wise to say that. you must realize, people hear voices in their head. yea its really them talking to themselves, it has a lot with the right side of their brain. the left side is logic, the right side is the more irational side. when they hear voices it blocks the thought from the left side that tells them that its really them talking. so you cant really say they are fully aware of where the voices are coming from. I studied this. and with the help of religion, they are lead to believe the voice of god is talking to them. but that isnt the case at all.


personally (and I can only speak for myself) it really depends on what is being said. I can't think of a religion that advocates these things but the extremists take it that way.

I fully respect your point of view and can only give you my take on how things are.

I enjoy learning about others beliefs, but that won't change my beliefs.

Generalizing all of one group because of a few extremists isn't right IMO and I wouldn't do that to other beliefs.

I won't condemn an entire group because of one psycho


nearly all religious people hear voices in their head. its not just one. and I am just saying. people believe what they hear esp when its comming from a unknown voice in the back of their head. and it doesnt always has to be an extremist. I can see an extremist being a pastor or a bishop, that is up in age, they may take things to extreme, but for the people that listen to them, they hear things in their heads also.

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Tue 01/19/10 07:23 PM

1 Million Muslims dead because of this man who was helped to be installed by god people. Thanks. Palin next? Yeah right, point is that with "values" voters we seem to repeating the same sordid history of chaos...Stalin, Hitler, and now the Neocons used religion but you can't just blame them as much as you should also blame the sheep who fall in line and obey.

Bush Talks about Crusade on Sep 16-2001

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsjgjM56HRw











i very much agree. the people who know the truth uses the myth as a mobilizing manipulating stratagy for controling the masses. its not good, and people need to snap out of it. but you can talk all you want, doesnt mean that they will listen because they wont. just like you can walk a mule to a water hole but you cant make it drink.

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Tue 01/19/10 07:19 PM



I will never say that their aren't fanatics out there....I would be lying if I said there weren't. But blaming religion isn't any better than me blaming testosterone.

I don't think it's either. I think there are mental problems and some people use the religion to hide behind. IMO that is a coward because they won't own up to their bad actions.


not really blaming, but if you research some people that actually murdered people. they say that god told them to do it. it even has it in the bible, murder in the name of the lord, how can you justify that? how do you know that they arent for real?


well from my beliefs...God didn't tell them that. If I killed someone and said Big Bird told me too..I wouldn't do it nor would it make it true.

people can say anything IMO. If I heard a Christian saying that...my first thoughts would be they are lying and being a coward or they have mental problems.

From my study of different religions...most have the basic theme...the Golden Rule or whatever that religion calls it.


it wouldnt be wise to say that. you must realize, people hear voices in their head. yea its really them talking to themselves, it has a lot with the right side of their brain. the left side is logic, the right side is the more irational side. when they hear voices it blocks the thought from the left side that tells them that its really them talking. so you cant really say they are fully aware of where the voices are coming from. I studied this. and with the help of religion, they are lead to believe the voice of god is talking to them. but that isnt the case at all.