Here comes a pretty woman named SadieJ telling lies on me. Do you not see me sending flowers for people? Even you I call pretty and did I not send flowers for you. Here's some more
I am simply very expressive as I speak the truth.And I'm sure you like my style. Everybody does. Only that some are envious and jealous and are ANGRY as I am STEALING their show.

Rmart is SPEAKING for ALL men? How much did he get paid to say that. He is working by chain or puppet strings? What prize is he LOOKING for?
I just went on his profile and saw where he CLAIMS to LOVE the Lord. I do not know if is a Bishop in the Church of the Pornosites of what BECAUSE all Churches and even other Religions like Hindu or Islam WOULD advise that Since it is OBVIOUS that they ARE screwing, (the lady says:"Things are great!" they engage. They in love since high school. They lost each other and found each other AGAIN.)they should DO THE SOCIALLLY ACCEPTED DECENT THING AND DOCUMENT THEIR RELATIONSHIP.

If she doesn't do that while SNEAKING around sexing, the Bible calls the sneaking around: "a whoring in her father's house."

What will be happening is they will be backward and forward at each others parents screwwing WHENEVER they get the chance, and if the parents won't allow it? Well the parents MUST go out at some time and lover will use that time to mash up the poohsie!!

So your friend Rmart would be the ONLY dissenting voice in the congregation. There you have WASTED your bribe!! He IS an imposter if he DOESN'T know what Churches will do. Send that question to a TV Evangelist like Pastor Hagee, T.D. Jakes etc, etc. They will say EXACTLY what I am saying. "Is either they abstain and do not register or CANNOT ABSTAIN for 4 years so 'get registered."


The OTHER thing is. The lass NEVER said that he is the controlling type. At age 18, she does not know WHAT IS controlling? And she is with him 'since High School? You think that she is stupid? If she was stupid she would NEVER come here to get opinions. But you see OLDER women WANT TO make her a MANHATER.
That is WHY the Bible says that "OLDER women SHOULD teach the YOUNGER women to be SOBER AND TO LOVE THEIR OWM HUSBANDS."

The devil do not like that. So he breathes into some OLDER women and schools them into 'HOW TO MAKE MENHATERS OUT OF YOUNGER WOMEN. BAH!!!!
So the FIRST thought that comeS to SOME minds in their advice is, to GIVE her lessons on 'HOW TO BREAK UP WITH HIM FAST.
To some, when THEY were 18, they were adults. But they have forgotten their past. Now thay call this young lady that the Government says is NOW an ADULT, 'only 18, and not old enough to get registered.

So audience get ready. Unsure is going to tell some MORE JOKES!!

Unsure comes back on the stage again!!?. Audience APPLAUDS loudly:
I know some people that say they do not have sex. They 9 months pregnant and STILL insisting, that they NEVER had sex.

I suppose you will follow them around with a powerful telescope to see when the penis enters the vagina or when they decide to drinK a penis? Because they won't run to their Momma and say: "Mommy!! Mommy!! I JUST TAKE A MAN! OR WOULD THEY?

When you had sex for the first time, you had ran to tell you momma. Right?
Tell another joke AGAIN Unsure. The audience is waiting!!

And by the way, I love you too eh Unsure even though you do not WANT TO show me a whole pic so that I COULD SCOPE YOU UP AND DOWN.

Unsure which comedian or clown you want to help? Get on the stage!!
Do you know ANY young couple, in this Century, or the last, (or the one before that) that are in LOVE SINCE HIGH SCHOOL, and ENGAGED, that are NOT having sex, and will WAIT UNTIL next 4 years??
When you were 18. You had waited???
PLEASE????????????!!!!!! DO NOT TAKE ANOTHER DRINK!

As soon as I tell Ms Jesse I love her STILL and and loving her more and more EVERYDAY, she has STOPPED talking to me.
THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!

Now I admire Adj4u's and certain others contribution. They say what they think. Right or wrong.
They did not attack me!!!!

In a way, I AGREE with Phoenix. She already said yes to him by having sex.
According to the Bible, believe it or not, when they have sex they are ALREADY MARRIED (Stuck together) Document or no document.(This is a next topic) "Thou shalt go in unto her and become her husband" Deut: 21: 11-15; Gen: 38:8; 1Cor: 7:36 etc etc.

So she is saying that she may not be ready to collect the noose (marriage certificate.) yet to HANG HIM.
Well she's BETTER MARRY HIM BEFORE HE FINDS OUT WHAT HE IS GETTING INTO.

And WHAT is HER culture? To sneak & SCREW around, without evidence or a commitment? Because not being married will not prevent an 18yr old from having sex. Every normal intelligent human being KNOWS THAT.
So you see who needs the medication and help? But I still love you, sick as you are, even thogh you won't dance with me, and you hate my guts. I will forever HOPE htat one day, you will come to me, hold my hand and say: "Greiving darling, LET'S DANCE??????"

And I am SURPRISED AT Sadiej. She ALWAYS has GOOD, INTELLIGENT contributions.

Yeabig! So quick you WANT to use a hammer to control me and your daughter to pound OUR heads into shape? lOOK I'm scard; my teeth ARE knocking.
Sadiepretty (or Sadistwhatever) A philosopher said to a LARGE believing audience that ANYTIME a person CANNOT explain themselves on a losing senseless point, THEY BEGIN TO USE FOUL LANGUAGE. What do you think about that?
Another one shouts!!!!!!: "Stop making that funny noise!!"

As I said before. The decision is for BOTH of them to make. It seems like some people find that it must ONLY be the female's decision.
Doesn't it show that she is thinking about WHAT to do?

She is obviously getting advice or threats from her parents.

This is a time when a youth gets an opportunity to SHOW BACKBONE and make their own decisions as a young adult.

I am NOT saying that she is CONTROLLING because she DOES NOT want to get registered. So why are some INSISTING that because he expresses his wish to get married, it means he is CONTROLLING?

IT shows how CHAINED UP some women are against men.

Do you think that he is not getting ADVICE from HIS parents too?
If they are devotees to a Christian Church, or planning to be, they will be getting ADVICE from the pulpit, TV or otherwise. Pastor Hagee,Dr. Myles Monroe, Benny Hinn; etc.

What do you think that advice is going to be or is? CORRECT. That ADVICE will be "If you two ARE HAVING SEX, as we are SURE you are, and WILL, get MARRIED! Otherwise you are living in sin and will not get ETERNAL LIFE." Now I am NOT saying that sex without registration (marriage) is a sin. That sex is the joining and THe Creator's marriage cerEmony. Deut: 21: 11-15; 1 Cor: 7:36. Some Devotees do not know that. But that is a next topic.

I have daughters who, being in Church piously, got married, (I did not have a say in the decision by the way) Afterwards they pursued their degree, got it, then one husband sped up his pursuit by going to school full time to finish his. then they take turns at going for more.
This lad is also directing her attention to the MANY temptations to have sex out there, but he doesn't WANT to have sex and not do what Society considers THE DECENT THING. That is a GOOD BOY. Why are some people bent on making him out to be a SCOUNDREL? I know why.

Anyhow, that 'Lad' is READY to get married (get hanged) where he will ONLY know WHAT IS marriage when he is going for a divorce (God forbids)and IF she is not ready and she takes jackass advice, SHE WILL LOSE A GOOD MAN because he will marry someone else. He is NOT GOING TO WAIT 4 YEARS to have sex, if the girl is SHOWING THAT she can not be an adult by doing the right thing. She will be showing that she is not READY to be brave (as an adult should be)yet.

And if he WANTS to be a 'Christian' and also HAVE SEX, with the nice ladies and temptatations out there, he is going to get married to someone else, AND SHE WILL HAVE LOST A GOOD MAN!!!

THE ARE PLENTY ADULT FEMALES RIGHT HERE THAT WILL SAY "HE IS A GOOD MAN. WHY DOESN'T HE ASK ME TO GET MARRIED? SHE'D BETTER TAKE HIM QUICK AND HOLD ON TIGHT."
While some are stretching and striving relentlessly, to make him a Scoundrel,evil,sinister,wicked,demon,OTHERS, including THE BLIND, are seeing, that he is Saint. Bah!!

I know however that WHEN SOME OF THESE ill advisors, SOBER UP, THEY WILL CRY like Blondie, in Dagwood comics to their Pastor in the bar or porno Site Webmaster from whom they LEARNT THEIR DOCTRINE: "BOOO HOOO HOO WHO!!" AND SAY THAT THEY ARE SORRY.
I have forgiven them in advance

I heard a Preacher say this once and everybody believed him:
"A man gets married to the woman he is in love with WHEN he is READY to get married."
If he is willing to get married, SHE should respect that too. Then they two will hear each other's views with none controlling, and decide what to do.
The woman is asking opinion here, and some people already WANTS to CHAIN HER UP against man, and her young adult age. They already want to SPOIL HER TO GIVE HIM PROBLEMS.

By the way, Who is the chairperson of this thread. Who is the person with the hammer.
I hope no one is acting like they are in charge except the initiator?

Yea strongman. It is his choice too. You sound like he has no say.
But I could see that YOU are looking for a prize. Why don't you then ask Jesse to marry you then every thing you suggest she and her friend tell you that you are controlling.?

Ms Jesse! If I can UNDERSTAND your utterances or mumblings, I will be able to reply to you. ?????????

The next thing is she has at least four years again BEFORE she gets a degree or the first degree. Then she will be 22. You are saying 'wait until she is 22, but screw around in the meantime? Or just screw in the meantime with him. He might be in a religion that says that is wrong. So he wants to make it right. Ever thougt of that.
Lots of 18 year old lads and lasses who belong to Churches,get married every day and STILL pursue their degrees WHILE HAPPILY MARRIED.

Yes! He has a say too! So she wants to find out what to do because he SUGGESTS: "Let's get married now?" To prove he is man enough to take the challenge.
Amd she SUGGESTS: "Please let us wait?"
So that does not SHOW ANYONE is controlling the other or wants to. It shows that they both have a dicision to make.
I am sure you know that some people will study better when they are in love and happily married. That is why the Creator found out that "it is bad for humans to be lonely." So some of us shacked up early but we forget.

My turn?
I find tattoos disgusting and far from sexy or anything nice.
It does not attract me. It sends me in the opposite direction. Yet I like earrings, chains, hand jewels, lipstick (lip colours)gold tooth, mascarra or so on some women. etc. All this sort of moderately or not overdone.
So I hope women do not go BELIEVING that men think that to be sexy and attractive, the untimate is that A WOMAN MUST HAVE TATTOOS.

I have learnt over and over that if and when a woman WANTS to further her education, NOTHING will stop her!!

So fighting means what? That it is he who wants to control not she or neither of them?
Unsure the man is trying to SHOW that, unlike MANY men, he WANTS TO GET MARRIED TO HER. That he is not a player. That he is not planning to USE HER.
The Western versiion of marriage does not say that now the man owns the woman to control her.
It says that it is the woman who now OWNS the man. That is what he is anxious to do. Be owned by her.
No?? Who do they GIVE THE wedding certificate to? Correct! It is the WIFE AND THAT IS WHAT SHE WILL USE when or if they separate, to take all his wealth and keep what she came with.
So it is he who has everything to lose yet he wants to give her his life.